HotFile - new rules - who like it?

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by dduck, Jun 23, 2009.

  1. lansiko

    lansiko Guest

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    #221
    Guys, question here. Will I get a better ranking if I upgrade my account from free to premium?
     
    lansiko, Aug 2, 2009 IP
  2. hatem20

    hatem20 Active Member

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    #222
    collect 15$ with copper level not easy :(
    i've got $2.61 (983 downloads) :confused:
     
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  3. dduck

    dduck Peon

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    #223
    hatem20, that was a joke that I made. I don't like both of them.
     
    dduck, Aug 3, 2009 IP
  4. Hipto

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    #224
    Ya man, they're smart by using that stupid ranking system but I'll not be using them anymore
     
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  5. steve87

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    #225
    I am using them & its great for me till now, I am always on Gold or sometime Platinum.

    If I will down, I can think to leave them.
     
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  6. dduck

    dduck Peon

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    #226
    NEW RULES FROM HOTFILE !

    Guys...you better sit down until you read it. ...at least those of you on gold and premium levels. :D

    So, from now on, all the 'bonus' from selling premiums will go to site's owner. It's is clear that hotfile did this because they know now that they made a mistake with new rules, and that only small group of ppl keep uploading files.
    By making new rules that are even worst for uploaders then the ones they made before, hotfile triend to profilt from the old links, because I am sure new links do not show up so much these days.

    To conclude: If you share on many places, trying hard to make more ppl see your links, in this situation, that would be exellent job from you for hotfile. ..An exellent job for which you will not be paid, because site will profit from that, and not you. Amount of premiums that you were selling this way will drop, and you will soon end up on copper level. When all uploaders drop down on copper level, hotfile will silently just close this part of affiliate program, and it will keep paying only site's owners.
    But once all old links get used too much, I am wondering who will upload more links. The only answer is: site owners by themselfs (or by paying a team of uploaders). And then, we are back on the start. Hotfile will continue to shave the earnings, bu this time earnings of sites itself.

    Only sites that force users to post links in code tags, so that links are not 'clickable', will not earn from that.

    And yes, now everyone will try to steal as much links as he can for his blog. :D


    The only chance for survival in this kind of situation would be IF hotfile is willing to pay you (uploader) and site owner for making a premium for the same link. Well...who knows, maybe even that is possible. At least, they have now enough money that they saved, by shaving your earnings with previous rules, that they can afford it. :)
     
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    dduck, Aug 7, 2009 IP
  7. virco

    virco Peon

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    #227
    I don't see how giving money to site owner will get negative impact premium sales. There are more chance for the opposite to happen if site owners somehow encourage uploaders to post hotfile. Another positive consequence can less/lifting bans for hotfile on forums.
     
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  8. dduck

    dduck Peon

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    #228
    Yes that may happen. But still, when you as an uploader share your link, you are doing all you can to share somethign that ppl will like to download. And if they do, you are sure that you will get paid for that. But you will never be sure if that person would buy a premium.
    So that still mean, that your sure money is in downloads, and not in premiums. Premiums are just a nice bonus but you can't affect that. And hotfile still hide the information about how mny premiums you sold, how you gonna know if your hard work is going to be paid by hotfile.

    As I said, the only positive thing in all this, would be if hotfile want to pay you both for the same link. You (the uploader) and the site owner (for 'hosting' your link). So if anyone buy a premium, you both profit. That would be nice, but since hotfile already show us that he only cares for himself, it would be a surprise.
    This was created to make a huge mess. So, soon you will see your links everywhere. The same links would be posted over and over on 100's of places. And it may happen that your downloads count will rise, but you know what that mean if you are not selling premiums. ;)
    Also, it may produce selling of premiums in first month(s) (I agree with that), but after some time, most ppl that wanted to have a premium would already have it. So...who will buy premiums then? It's a nice plan to mess with rapidshare, but the answer from rapidshare will sure be more then clear. Anyway, competition is a good thing (for end users), so rapidshare may offer some even better things for premiums.

    The main purpose of this is too make hotfile links more spreaded across the net, and I must admit that this is a nice business idea from hotfile ...for hotfile.
    Until they reveal in statistics how many premiums you sold, this only means that the one who sure will profit from new rules is hotfile himself.
     
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    dduck, Aug 7, 2009 IP
  9. virco

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    #229
    Still, I continue to see this as positive move so far. And another good thing may be that people will make search/catalogue sites like rapidlibrary.com and more people will download our links.
     
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  10. dduck

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    #230
    I agree that it will produce more downloads, but that doesn't mean it will produce as much premiums. So...I fear that platinum users may soon loose their rank.

    Offcorse I would like to be wrong, 'cause I have old hotfile links too. But in last 6 weeks hotfile wasn't playing a fair game with uploaders.
     
    dduck, Aug 7, 2009 IP
  11. HyPn0sE

    HyPn0sE Peon

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    #231
    I think you're not getting it correctly. You get the commission only if the site's owner is you... IF you have a forum or blog and if the link is your's and not from other poster. They have a code that the site's owner have to include in his forum HTML to check if you're the real owner of the forum or blog.

    How to verify?
    In order to verify your site you need to create a file named 7xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.html that include the text XXXXXXX-XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX in it.
    Ready that and then click "Verify" bellow to complete the procces.
     
    HyPn0sE, Aug 8, 2009 IP
  12. dduck

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    #232
    Well, I think you didn't even had time to read few posts above from this page. :)

    Let me quote again, for you:

    So...what did you said? :)

    btw. that is the official quote, and you can find the same information on the bottom of affiliate page on hotfile site.
     
    dduck, Aug 8, 2009 IP
  13. xcoolrajx

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    #233
    I also think this will benefit the uploader. To start with, there is NO bonus for uploaders who sell premium to start with - your status increases but there is no money/ commission. The new rule is basically encouraging website owners to allow hotfile links to be posted so that many sites will lift and even encourage people into downloading hotfile links. As far as my understanding goes, if someone buys premium from your site from another uploaders link, you get 5% of the premium link money - but the fact that the uploader get promoted to higher status does not change. So its a win-win situation. I don't get where you get the idea that that its even worse for the uploaders from.
     
    xcoolrajx, Aug 11, 2009 IP
  14. dduck

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    #234
    Just a simple question:
    You upload file
    I share your link
    if someone buy premium form that link,

    I get 5%

    But, is that also counted onto your account? (are you granted better level for selling account from your link, or the only one who get bonus is me for posting your link on my site that someone used to buy a premium?)


    Also, even if it wasn't me who uploaded that file, but I received a 5% bonus....does that also raise my level, or not?
     
    dduck, Aug 11, 2009 IP