new, I like this version of you However, I would like to ask you one thing. Well, say one thing as well. You know what a celebrity is right? I take it you do. Someone that craves media attention. Apparently, this guy isn't well known, at least none of us here have ever heard of him. Now, that means he is dieing, well, time for a media stunt to get a new label, oh, I know, I'll convert to islam. See how it works? MJ did it right, he was quiet about it, but, seriously, who cares. There are thousands and thousands of religions and variations of religions that I hate to say it, but, what makes you think yours is right? SEriously. My biggest beef with Islam is the fact that it is so controlling that if you convert out, you will be killed. Seriously, thats worse than Christianity.
He was probably a "mentally disturbed" soul like MJ for example.... Some "troubled souls" not knowing which way to go in live are checking if Islam will help them ....M.Tyson had and probably still have psycho problems and joined Islam hoping to become a better person, but didn't change much.... M. J. liked to hang around more with young boys than women ..... he tried to get help from Islam, couldn't get enough ... And how can one find peace in a religion where its prophet was a long time fighter? Not to mention his highly questionable marriage to the 6 year old child where many muslims agree was morally wrong. By today's standards he would be on the most wanted list for war crimes (he is responsible for the execution of hundreds of POW that's a crime against humanity, plus child molestation, plus probably many other crimes. Yeah, that's the truth, like it or not I am not making it up. He did that kind of stuff it is in the Quran and these days his deeds are considered CRIMES. He is looking for peace in the wrong belief system.
War crimes? why not start with Bush, dick their cronies and terrorists of isreal ? who have in 'today's standards ' killed hundreds of not POW but innocent kids and women
So I assume now we can expect an immense wave of Canadians "accepting" Islam? What is the purpose of the thread or the message & knowledge that we are supposed to learn from it? Or maybe the message you wanted to get through with this thread is: Since rappers are the supreme intellectual authority in modern times in nowadays society, if some rapper decides to accept Islam, this must be the ultimate proof that Islam is not an extreme and violent religion but a true message from god.
new, the truth is you are right Bush started a war against Iraq for no good reason and thousands of people died in it and it is to a great degree his fault they died, some Americans won't agree with me, but most Americans today do agree the war on Iraq was wrong. And I agree that by interantional law Bush is a war criminal. He didn't get the UN approval to go to Iraq, Iraq was not a military threat to America. BUT, Bush does not claim to be a prophet. I can handle the truth when I don't like it. Can you acknowladge Muhammad's marriage to the 6 year old child was wrong? I think you and most muslims will probably never answer this question.
I was right, no muslim got the courage to answer the question above. I'll repeat it again: Can you acknowladge Muhammad's marriage to the 6 year old child was wrong? Do you know why muslims don't want to answer it? They know it was the wrong thing for Muhammad to do, and if they if they openly accept it as wrong, then the immage of Muhammad will no longer the "perfect one", that would be the start of the questioning of so many contraversial things committed by Muhammad. Deeply in their hearts muslim don't want to give their 6 years daughters for marriage not only to a man in his 50's, but to anybody. Because the 6 year old person is still a child. ..... Even 1400 years ago the 6 year olds were still children .... the 9 year olds too. As a matter of fact many muslim girls under 10 are still been given for wives to much older men .... for financial benefits. I know a muslim man who's sister was given for a wife to a man who WAS 40 YEARS OLDER THAN HER! He tells me his sister hates her husband, but there is nothing she could do now... they even got a few children.
your question been answered here several times before, I think you even been given the link to the discussion in another thread, btw, she was not 6 years, she was 9, I will paste the whole post because I feel you do not follow links: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=10437037&postcount=36 I do recommend that you follow the link above, as not all quotes and links are active in the quote above. Muslims, have courage to say wrong when they see something wrong, but I wonder, why no Christian can answer in a convincing way the question of why would God need a son?
.... According to the traditional sources, Aisha was six or seven years old when betrothed to Muhammad.[1][3][4] American historian Denise Spellberg states that "these specific references to the bride's age reinforce Aisha's pre-menarcheal status and, implicitly, her virginity."[3] This issue of her virginity was of great importance to early historians who supported the Abbasid Caliphate. These historians considered that as Muhammad's only virgin wife, Aisha was divinely intended for him, and therefore the most credible regarding the debate over the succession to Muhammad.[3] Aisha stayed in her parents' home for several years until she joined Muhammad and the marriage was consummated.[1][3][4][5][6][7] Most of the sources indicate that she was nine years old at the time, with the single exception of al-Tabari, who records that she was ten.[3] The marriage was delayed until after the Hijra, or migration to Medina, in 622; Aisha and her older sister Asma bint Abi Bakr only moved to Medina after Muhammad had already migrated there. After this, the wedding was celebrated very simply. The sources do not offer much more information about Aisha's childhood years, but mention that after the wedding, she continued to play with her toys, and that Muhammad entered into the spirit of these games.[8].... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha A lot of sources and many of them are muslim say Aisha was 6 years old when she married Mohammad and 9 when they consumed the marriage. I agree the ordinary people have done such things, but .... comparing Mohammad with what ordinary people do will not be a good idea for many muslims since Mohammad is considered to be a "perfect man".... ordirnary people are not perfect. Tell me the truth now, would you give your 9 year old daughter to a man in his 50's? How many muslims here on this forum would give their 9 year old daughters to a man in his 50 + years? Don't you think something is wrong to put together a 54 year old man with a 9 year old child in bed? I am 100% sure no good man will give his 9 year old child for marriage to a man who is 45 years older than her .... No 9 year old person is ready for marriage and sex anyway...
yes at that time, they were ready to marry at 7+ old, and if I was in that time, and if that man was the prophet pbuh, then yes of course I would I wonder, do you read your bible, or do you think Muslims did not read it? or you are just motivated by your hatred to Islam and Muslims? because in your bible, this been the norm then to marry young girls at sometimes 7 years old, for the reasons I mentioned in my earlier post here, which I recommend you to read it, because I still feel you did not read it at all.
When some people have nothing reasonable to say and when they can find no excuse they start playing unfair games like this one that I "hate" muslims. I hang out with muslims almost every day brother! Why you playing victom of hatred? The norm of that time was very, very low. That's why prophets and spiritual teachers are sent by God so they can teach the ordinary people like me and you to live better, to have better lives. Muhammad did what other kings and ordinary rich people were doing - getting as young girls as they can. Muhammad should have preached that only well grown up people should get married. My religion teaches me to love everybody, not to hate. "....yes at that time, they were ready to marry at 7+ old, and if I was in that time, and if that man was the prophet pbuh, then yes of course I would ....." Why is wise for a prophet to mary a 7 year old girl? Why would God reason like that that it is OK for prophet to mary a 6-7 year old girl? I am sure for myself that's not the way how God reasons. If you were a 7 year old girl how would you like it if your father gave you for a wife to 50 + years old man? Come on ..... you know very well something is not right about that.