What should I learn first?

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  1. getronit

    getronit Peon

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    #21
    you should learn basic first(html with notepad) then advance
     
    getronit, Jul 22, 2009 IP
  2. JBMedia

    JBMedia Active Member

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    #22
    Thank you, I will most definitely check out those books and see how well they can help me. I appreciate the gesture.
     
    JBMedia, Jul 24, 2009 IP
  3. nontemplates

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    #23
    Some people here have no clue what they are talking about but are giving advice. There is no way you can learn CSS separate from Html/Xhtml and learning XHTML without learning CSS would have no usefulness -they go hand in hand.
     
    nontemplates, Jul 24, 2009 IP
  4. xxkinga2

    xxkinga2 Peon

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    #24
    Buy a Dreamweaver CS4 and get your self "Dreamweaver CS4: The Missing Manual" . It will take you from begining to advanced HTML and css together, also will help you understand the code you are writing and dreamweaver cs4 does not insert junk code in your HTML so there will be no clean up.
    Absolutely the best and easiest way to go about it.
     
    xxkinga2, Jul 24, 2009 IP
  5. jbrooksuk

    jbrooksuk Active Member

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    #25
    This has probably been said before, but I find the fact that you said HTML is becoming obsolete hilarious!
     
    jbrooksuk, Jul 24, 2009 IP
  6. JBMedia

    JBMedia Active Member

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    #26
    Thanks for the advise again guys. I'm going to start taking up some more HTML tomorrow morning and get started on the course..
     
    JBMedia, Jul 24, 2009 IP
  7. sc18

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    #27
    For clientside web development learn the following in the order
    1.HTML 2.CSS 3.Javascript/Ajax

    For server side development go for PHP/MySQL .
    These are the minimum but you can learn additionally XML and Photoshop also
    For developing HTML pages simple notepad is sufficient.
    This is the route through which I have learnt Webdesign/Development.
     
    sc18, Jul 25, 2009 IP
  8. Stomme poes

    Stomme poes Peon

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    #28
    Whoa whoa whoa.

    HTML is a markup language. While it can follow many of the same principles of just coding (in programming languages) in general, it is in no way a programming language.
    CSS is a declarative language who mimics C-style "blocks" but CSS is also not a programming language. It lets you declare properties for the different values of HTML elements... I suppose you could compare it to setting the properties of prototypes of objects in Javascript, but that's a stretchy comparison.

    Java is a full-blown programming language, and not something one learns lightly! To say Java is the best back-end language to learn for the web is asking for a flamewar between programmers (prolly not here because it seems everyone around here uses PHP, which we all do have to admit is at least the most popular back-end language for the web (unfortunately)). And learning programming if you are not a programmer takes a lot more time than it does to learn HTML and CSS.

    There are MANY POSSIBLE back-end languages to use:
    PHP
    Python
    Ruby
    Perl (yay)
    Java
    ColdFusion (wtf...)

    Someone, somewhere has done back-end with C or C++, I just know it.
     
    Stomme poes, Jul 27, 2009 IP
  9. GeorgeHodgkins

    GeorgeHodgkins Peon

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    #29
    I learnt

    HTML
    CSS
    PHP
    AJAX

    in that order in just under a year. Tutorials from websites like w3schools.com are very useful.

    Good look to you.
     
    Last edited: Jul 27, 2009
    GeorgeHodgkins, Jul 27, 2009 IP
  10. JBMedia

    JBMedia Active Member

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    #30
    I really do appreciate you helping me understand some things. You're a very intelligent and helpful person. I'll keep the things you have told me in mind while I'm starting through this "project".
     
    JBMedia, Jul 27, 2009 IP
  11. BlueIce08

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    #31
    I agree, I don't care much for CMS and these site builder websites. When a client comes to me for updates to such sites there are undoubtedly numerous validation errors. Learn html and css and try to hand code some basic sites in Notepad.
     
    BlueIce08, Jul 28, 2009 IP
  12. Sheikh Ahsan

    Sheikh Ahsan Peon

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    #32
    Few days back this was my question too that what should I learn first, HTML PHP or CSS........ but when i asked few teachers who are teaching this course they recommended me to learn all as this will make you professional. Start with HTML thn jump to PHP and CSS.. but u shud knw HTML as its not obsolute evn nw. It still have demand and its an basic knowledge and key for successful PHP learner!
    Cheers!
     
    Sheikh Ahsan, Jul 28, 2009 IP
  13. Oranges

    Oranges Active Member

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    #33
    HTML comes first, and along with that CSS comes and then later on PHP, ASP, ROR and other languages comes.
    So i would suggest you to start off with HTML and CSS together.
     
    Oranges, Jul 28, 2009 IP
  14. jmorecraft

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    #34
    Learning coding lanquages are definately an advantage because wherever you turn, you will be faced with inserting code on a web page but there are super web designers that will do all of the html, css, xml, rss and more without a person having to have any knowledge about these items. These programs can be purchased for just under $200. For a person that is wanting to design websites, it does not make sense to waste valuable time learning in-depth these programming languages when they could be doing actual productive work for a very small investment. Learning some coding is essential but the thing a person needs to concentrate on is building good sites and this can be done with minimal coding knowledge. Send me a PM and I can give you the top three sites to look at for fantastic inexpensive web design software.
     
    jmorecraft, Jul 28, 2009 IP
  15. pipes

    pipes Prominent Member

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    #35
    WTF? :)

    I haven't read the replies, but to clear up confusion, its XHTML2 that wont be carrying on.

    You need both HTML and CSS together, on top of this learn web layouts in photoshop, read about javascript, jquery, if you really want to keep yourself busy learn php and mysql too.

    HTML = Alive
    XHTML 1.0 = Alive
    XHTML 2.0 = Will stop
    CSS2 = Alive, with little bits of CSS3 being used.
    HTML5 = Being used and whole sites completed with it.
     
    pipes, Jul 28, 2009 IP
  16. jbrooksuk

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    #36
    I learnt JavaScript before HTML - don't ask.
     
    jbrooksuk, Jul 28, 2009 IP
  17. tajio

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    #37
    First thing you should get basic knowlegedge on HTML and then get some knowlegedge on CSS to style and design your site :) .
     
    tajio, Jul 28, 2009 IP
  18. jbrooksuk

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    #38
    If you decide to look into jQuery, then take a look at jTutorials :)
     
    jbrooksuk, Jul 29, 2009 IP
  19. RedesignYourBiz com

    RedesignYourBiz com Peon

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    #39
    SilentGround gave you the best advise.

    Learn HTML first then CSS coz HTML will create the foundation for your website and then you can learning styling through CSS.
     
    RedesignYourBiz com, Jul 29, 2009 IP
  20. Sheikh Ahsan

    Sheikh Ahsan Peon

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    #40
    I will still recommend yahoo tutorials as I have gone through them and they help a lot!!
     
    Sheikh Ahsan, Jul 30, 2009 IP