Who's Fault Is It, GOD's, Adam's, or Yours????

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  1. Nehemiah

    Nehemiah Peon

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    #21

    This is a rhetorical question
    : Did you just now "keep" your non-"religious view" to yourself?
    This is not a rhetorical question: Why would you ask/suggest/demand someone do that which you, so obviously, don't do yourself?
     
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    it career Notable Member

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    #22
    It is definitely God's fault , otherwise he can easily communicate to the OP by whispering in his ear , (NO, Just because you believe in me , your sins are not forgiven )
     
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    Nehemiah Peon

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    #23
    GOD gave Adam "dominion" over the entire earth, and everything on/in it; GOD, clearly, commands Adam of all the things that he can "freely" do (as well as all the trees that he can "freely" eat from); GOD tell him of the one tree not to eat from, along with the consequence of doing otherwise. . . and its that one tree that Adam chooses to eat from, and you believe it to be "definitely God's fault"?
     
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    it career Notable Member

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    #24
    Eventhough Adam believed in God, how come Adam's sin was not forgiven.
     
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    Nehemiah Peon

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    #25
    Because sin is not/never forgiven. . .only the sinner; and the reason that sin is never forgiven is because it brings about just the opposite of what and all that GOD IS, death.
    Some, most of you misunderstand GOD's intent for mankind, HIS HIGHEST Created order; HE ONLY wants Life Eternal for us. . .but so that we would not be merely HIS puppets, HE gave us "free will" so that we could "freely" accept or reject HIM. . .and rather than to kill Adam right there on the spot, GOD covered up their nakedness (their sin, and the knowledge thereof. . .temporarily) by shedding the blood of an innocent animal(s), and getting them out and away from "the tree of Life", until such time as ONE [HIMSELF] could take away their sins for all time.
     
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    #26
    I've always been a believer that your responsible for your own actions and the predictable outcomes.
     
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    #27
    To me this question is like asking "Who brings better gifts: Santa Clause, The Tooth Fairy, or The Easter Bunny?"
     
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    #28
    Will someone please take away this guys text style privileges?
     
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    #29
    All his creation, their are have a sin most specially to us cussed when we are born. we have now a sin.
     
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    Nehemiah Peon

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    #30
    Why? Is anyone forcing you to read my posts?
    So this is yet another question that you can't answer, huh?
     
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    #31
    What came first, the chicken or the egg?

    Everyone is responsible for their own actions. So, using the process of eliminations, there being no God, that choice is out, Adam being quite old and long since dead, that choice is out. Well then, if I "sin" then it must be my fault.
     
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    Nehemiah Peon

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    #32
    The "chicken". . .which is proof of GOD.
    Which came first, the Apple or the seed?

    Except for the parts about, "there being no God", and "Adam being quite old...", I agree with you.
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #33
    well it was the egg. Obviously. So so much for your "proof", it turns out to be yet another basless assumption resulting from your embarrasingly poor understaning of the world around you.

    Try Reading some books, preferably ones written this millenium.
     
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    #34
    . . .and chance fertilized "the egg", then chance laid "the egg", and incubated and hatched "the egg", and chance nurtured and/or fed the newly hatched chance chicken, and chance caused that one particular chicken to hook up with chance that impregnated the, by then grown, chance chicken with a chance fertilized egg, and eventually lay, incubate, hatch, nurture/feed, and eventually have sex with chance chicken, Jr.,. . .and thus we have chicken, as we know them today. . .ta-da.:D
     
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    anglefourfivemedia Banned

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    #35
    Why is everybody so adamant about their interpretations of life. Everybody is looking at their life and the world based on the limited experiences that they've encountered and assuming they have this life pegged based on two or three "life experiences".

    There is no answer, every human being is flawed and everybody on this planet is wondering what's missing and perpetually chasing something that can never be attained. If Christianity works for you, that's great, and that's your interpretation of spirituality and how you achieve closeness to God but if you're preaching that there really is one way to heaven, or rather your interpretation of the afterlife, than I think should have a long conversation with the victims of the World Trade Center attacks and families of the victims of 9/11, or maybe Ghandi (a Hindu), who has probably done more, as far as empowering people and extending compassion peacefully than every member of DP put together including me.

    Everything in life is a interpretation, and if you think the Bible is any different than an interpretation that's been translated from Aramaic, to Latin, to English many times over you're fooling yourself. The Jews were great story tellers, and they interpreted their experiences and shared their world views to fit the culture of their time.

    The Bible was a topical text for the time it was written, and even though it has some excellent insight on how to live a "moral" life, it's still an interpretation. If you take every piece of text from the Bible and think that every human being is must adhere to that text, and accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior to get into heaven than you are viewing your life through tinted glass.
     
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    #36
    no the precursor to what we call a "chicken" fertilised the egg.

    In simple terms, and this really is as simple as I can do for you so try extra hard to grasp it, a chicken is a bird, birds evolved from reptiles and reptiles lay eggs. So the first thing that could have been called a "chicken" would inevitibly hatched from an egg
     
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    #37
    So really (as in: 'tech-ni-cal-ly'), what "came first" was "the precursor", and not "the chicken" nor "the egg", huh?:D
     
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    #38
    The precursor to the chicken wasn't a chicken, it was just similar enough genetically to be able to fertilise the egg which produced what we would now call a chicken. Do you not feel embarrased when you have to deliberately act dumb in order to pretend you don't understand simple points? I know I would, but then, I have integrity.
     
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    #39
    I don't blame false gods, I don't blame the Y-chromosomal Adam, and I don't blame myself. I blame the pimps that whore out to us the falsities of God and religion, I blame the pimps that whore out fear to get compliance to one point of view, and in a strong sense... and I blame the pimps on any form of public speaking, any form of communication to spread a message of fear, hate, and deceit, lies about other groups, demonizing them for not accepting the pre-packaged message. I blame the religious pimps, and I universally see them as damned in the human condition... and I pity them.
     
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    #40
    What about a message of LOVE? But, alas, you've shown that you're too obtuse to know and understand that.
    If the message is as you say it it is, why not explain why the ones reading your crap are still here to read it?
    GOD (according to you, WHO doesn't exist) Loves/Loved you enough to leave your (and my) sorry a-- around, yet, you (not me) can only believe that HIS "message" is about nothing more than "fear, hate, and deceit, lies about other groups, demonizing them for not accepting the pre-packaged message".

    Question: If you were THE GOD that you don't believe IS, would you "message" be "pre-packaged" or would you make it up as you go along?
     
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