Strange sale!

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by KasperKnop, Jul 22, 2009.

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    Today I made a sale from a product I have newer seen or promoted in my life. One hop one sale. I don't think someone have misspelled their id, because my id is very special. Have anyone tried anything like this before?
     
    KasperKnop, Jul 22, 2009 IP
  2. Marlexca

    Marlexca Peon

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    #2
    Maybe is a upsell an you dind't know....
     
    Marlexca, Jul 22, 2009 IP
  3. redline_nz

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    #3
    hmmm interesting
     
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  4. alex021

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    #4
    might be an error in a tracking software, happend to me once about ayear ago
     
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  5. KasperKnop

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    Can't be it's a totally different niche. The only thing I really promoto is brewii for http://www.howtomodyourwii.com and this is a guide called "Magnets 4 Energy" XD
     
    KasperKnop, Jul 22, 2009 IP
  6. Ripped

    Ripped Well-Known Member

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    #6
    he's probably giving away sales to affiliates to artificially bump up his gravity
     
    Ripped, Jul 22, 2009 IP
  7. ExpertForumGuy

    ExpertForumGuy Well-Known Member

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    #7
    wow, didn't think of that.
     
    ExpertForumGuy, Jul 22, 2009 IP
  8. mushu

    mushu Peon

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    #8
    yes that is it Ripped is totally right. He is giving sales so he can bump gravity
     
    mushu, Jul 22, 2009 IP
  9. KasperKnop

    KasperKnop Peon

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    Seriously... to me that sounds like throwing your money into a big black hole. Hell I got 30 dollars for that one sale.
     
    KasperKnop, Jul 23, 2009 IP
  10. NCMedia

    NCMedia Well-Known Member

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    #10
    it's actually quite common, and there are even scripts that rotate a set of Id's you preprogram. Believe me as stupid as it might sound to you, paying $300 for a gravity of 10 in a week/two can do wonders to a program, as can paying $3000 for 100 gravity... For marketers it's all investing into risk/flipping money. He knows he's not going to setup 10 new accounts because of the payment requirements, why not at least give some affiliates he doesn't know yet some sales even in other niches. They might even come to a forum and post about it, and include the program name and help promote it more... you see where this is goin'?

    ;) N.
     
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  11. Robert25

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    If this is true then he will surly ask for a refund in couple of month when he had some real people promoting.
     
    Robert25, Jul 23, 2009 IP
  12. NCMedia

    NCMedia Well-Known Member

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    #12
    He may he may not, when refunds come in they don't detract from gravity, but it's just bad karma. Plus a smart vendor won't refund their own marketing plans, he'll probably hope this hooks him/others into promoting it (thinking back, if I was a noob, I'd also be like "woohoo free money, I' dunno how but great! I'ma go promote this now!)... All depends who the vendor is - if he's banking well from the effort and the program picks up naturally and grows, he's into good money. If it doesn't grow naturally (and this is the biggest risk you take when you fake your gravity), in time, shortly even, the gravity will drop back down to 0 unless they keep funding their fake gravity, and eventually they will see that it just doesn't convert naturally period, and pull out.

    I've thought about doing this on a mass scale before, but watching the MMO's with their fake influence (cb aff's buying) was a big enough turn off for me and a realization that THERE IS NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT THAN NATURAL GROWTH! PERIOD!

    I've taken on a new filter in my vendor arm - which is NOT to let any affiliates even see or know about a product until it's been tested, tweaked, retested, and PROVEN NATURAL GROWTH. My graphics are HOT, copy is HOT, products are HOT - but half have failed despite all those HOT points, because I didn't test enough and aff's couldn't convert well enough - and bye bye. I think that's the biggest pain most here go through, you vendors launch products way too prematurely and expect aff's to pick up your slack or do testing/proving it won't convert for you. Aff's keep jumping into 'THIS IS THE BEST PROGRAM I"VE EVER PROMOTED' type of crap and come out broke. It's no fault of their own, it's just the growing curve many grow through...

    So for all you raising an eyebrow on this 'cool and nifty way to fake your gravity' - I wouldn't recommend it at all, and if you do, prepare to fail unless you truly test and convert your product well internally. Don't be like me and learn the hardway 30+ products later!!!!!!!!!

    /rant.
     
    NCMedia, Jul 23, 2009 IP
  13. willyboy104

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    #13
    Very well said Norb, I am with you on that one. I have seen a couple of your products flop and although everything aesthetically was just amazing it was just down to not enough testing it is disappointing but if you learn from the mistakes made then things can get better.

    This is definitely something not enough Vendors do, they need to test their products and to be honest vendors need to appreciate their affiliates more considering they make or break the product.
     
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  14. Robert25

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    I agree with you, most of the time this kind of stuffs fail and eventually these people try to recover the loss (as we all know gravity updates regularly).So, I mentioned He might(this was missing in previous statement lol.) as for refund.

    If a vendor is having a awesome product with good conversion stats, its quite acceptable to do such kind of stuff in this highly competitive arena.

    As an affiliate I always look around for good products and often change my vendors to test the water. Only vendors with good quality products and low refund rates are continuously promoted.

    I really feel bad when some one comes on my blog and says "The Product Does Not Works!". This actually hurt me from inside.

    So basic is that, you must have a good quality product and it should convert at its best. And all Newbie vendors must do their home work first.
     
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    markov Peon

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    Why should he do that? Instead he can spend that amount on Adwords. Isn't it?
     
    markov, Jul 23, 2009 IP
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    To all the vendors launching new product and would like gravity bump, you can use cb id as Ldf39.

    Thanks

    (Edit:Ofcourse that's not my id, money would go to clickbank directly, I was just joking.)
     
    Ldf39, Jul 23, 2009 IP
  17. simplyjo

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    WOW... vendors are free to dump their 'free' sales on me. LOL.
     
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  18. PixelMedia

    PixelMedia Greenhorn

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    That's right! I am with you on that one too...
     
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    Because Adwords wouldn't boost his Clickbank Gravity Number unless he opened up a bunch of affiliate accounts himself to buy through - and as NCMedia pointed out, with all the payment restrictions on new accounts, it just isn't worth it.

    Not to mention, Adwords will only get you a few sales from customers. It won't necessarily attract affiliates to come join the program and promote it for a while based on the free sale.

    Personally, if I saw a free sale of $30 in my account, I would try and promote the product for a few days to see if I can get more. So the vender spends $30 and gets a few days worth of advertising and promotion out of me. What would he get for $30 using Adwords?
     
    nyxano, Jul 23, 2009 IP