Hee-Hee-Hee!!! What "new account"? You mean that I could have gotten "banned", and then came back with a "new account"? Woowww! Why didn't I think of that? When I was "banned" I stayed "banned" until the ban was lifted. . .and then I decided to post again here. I didn't attempt to do any underhanded stuff from one of my other computers, a different location, etc. If you don't like what I post, why not just ignore me. . .that's what I'd do, if I were not interested in what you have to say. If you cannot handle what I have to say in this forum, how can you possibly hope to handle Hell? BTW, what have I done to be "banned"? The two times that I was "banned" what did I do more seriously than what had, first and already, been done to me? Right now, I'm only going to deal with what I have really really highlighted. Your statement is just not so; it wasn't then, and it is not so now. When HA-SHEM Created man in Genesis/Bereshit 1:26, notice what HE states, "And G-d said: 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.'". So then, when an upright walking, slick talking snake, comes into Adam's happy home and starts a conversation with Adam's wife, and Adam, who named the snake, doesn't exercise "dominion", given to him by GOD, over the snake, your opinion of who "made man disobey god" is just as wrongly misguided as your other opinions, not based on facts, are. Ergo, I won't even address the other parts of your statement there, because if you missed stuff from the very beginning, what can you possibly have gotten right later on?
You need to polish up your argument Nehemiah. Be well-rounded in all aspects of argument. What you do is stick to text only. Sure you're a master of Scripture compared to me but it doesn't amount to anything in the bigger picture. What I bring to the table is common sense, the practical argument, the one every human should be able to relate to. You don't get anywhere because you lack the practical aspect. You're used to preaching to people who have already accepted the fact that what you're preaching about is right. That point has not been established yet outside of church.
Prior to addressing your post, remember the following from the very first recorded Psalm, "Blessed is the man that walks not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of the scornful." Now allow me to define some words as it pertains to that Psalm: "the man"= is made clearer in verse 2; "walk"= entertains; "stands"= begin to take heed to; "sits"= becomes comfortable with. "the ungodly. . .sinners. . .the scornful"= is one of the two of us... GOD'S WORD is "well-rounded", and COMPLETE in any and "all aspects of" any "argument". You don't get that because you reject that. . .but even you know, that rejecting something doesn't make your rejection of it the right thing done. The reason that I "stick to text only" is because to do otherwise is show forth "double-mindedness"; and according to "text only", "A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. (James 1:8)". I'm not a master of anything; Moses was an obedient servant of GOD who was made, by GOD, to look as a God to Pharoah. Coming from a "Christian" background and/or family, you should know and, most of all, have proven these things to be so. And when it comes down to after all has been opined outside THE WORD of GOD [Scripture], it is and will forever be THE WORD of GOD kicking butt. . .and you wondering what happened: "All the edu-my-cation and scholarly thought in the world, and I still got my butt kick by the proverbial 'Bible thump-er'. And that, sir, is "the bigger picture", that doesn't get any bigger than that. The more you rely on THE WORD of GOD, the smarter (Spiritually and Worldly) HE makes you. The thing that I find most interesting about "common sense" is that its no longer "common"; its just as the Scripture declares, "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. (1Corinthians 1:19)". Rather than just settling for being "common", I'd much rather have ". . .the mind of CHRIST (1Corinthians 2:16)". That "mind", like HIS "practical aspect" is Everlasting. What you advocate, on the other hand, is doomed to everlasting destruction. BTW, "people who have already accepted the fact", are taught; sinners are the ones whom "preaching" is meant for. . .but you really should have learned that, given the background you claimed to have come from.
And if he does exist, how pathetic and inept must he be to need someone like manamana to fight his battles.
Actually stOx, what is "pathetic and inept" is to try and be insulting, degrading, and derisive to a person who's name you can't even get correct. Why not make certain everyone knows who it really is that you have such a disdain for. . .after all that is all you have to offer, right?
I have successfully debated you on your secular terms. . .and won; you have yet to debate me successfully Spiritually, let alone secular, on my terms, so to post something by someone dead and gone (for now), who never considered THE WORD of GOD in his teaching, may sound, look, and seem good. . .but bring it on, using your argument according to, and per his instructions, mandates, and/or logic. . .and let's see what happens. "For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He takes the wise in their own craftiness.". I'll let you look that one up.
Lol, Nehemiah, you always twist sh!t around it's so funny. Every time after I post I think to myself, "ok how the hell is he going to get out of this one". You're a real Houdini I'll tell ya. Nowhere is it proven god exists, and especially nowhere is it proven the Christian god exists. If you were serious with your previous 3 examples I seriously feel bad for you. Nostradamus also made some prophetical writings that some say have come true, does that mean he's a holy man or everything else he says is true? A broken clock is right twice a day. Your sorry excuse for proof also has to do with the culture and an advancing civilization more than it has to do with god magically giving us answers to stuff. Real proof this time, give us some.
Basically it all boils down to nehemia only has the bible. A book of fairy tales written by man. No actual proof. It's ok nehemia. /thread.
The Fall of Man, or simply "the Fall," in Christian doctrine refers to the transition of the first humans from a state of innocent obedience to God, to a state of guilty disobedience to God. In the Book of Genesis, Adam and Eve live at first with God in a paradise, but are then deceived or tempted by the serpent to eat fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, which had been forbidden them by God. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Man sorry about delay in responding to you. I hope you are still around and will read this. here is what i was referring to as satan made man disobey god. now you can also address the other parts of my argument .
Nehemiah: What a load of crap (this is why religion is a joke to those who see pure logic) Logic Keeps Man sane, Religion keeps man Stupid All of this crap below means nothing. its a joke how can it be about relationships (not religion) ?? stop making stupid interpretations of your stupid religion. so to quote a great saying i herd maybe from St0x Out of the 1000s of religions invented what makes you think you have chosen the right one. So tell me Nehem why is your religion so good and another. ill tell you why becoz your scummy ass religious parents thought you god was good believe in god and your life will be great (i wish is was illegal to teach religion) thats why you have such stupid beliefs i bet if you grew up someone else in the world you would still be religous coz a weak mind is a weak mind and most ppl who believe in god and clinically retarded your no exception Nerah trust me your Pic SAY CRAZY Religous Nutter
Great postings Nehemiah right on about relationship. Jesus didn't get along with the religious pharisees thats for sure!
Thanks JREAM; Careful though, a person can get in a world of trouble around here just by merely being openly nice to me, let alone agreeing with me. Nonetheless, I really appreciate your comments. Careful you don't reveal your mindset and/or the contents of your tighty-whiteys Which, if true, would explain your lack of the former, while causing me to agree with you regarding the latter. You seem so fixated on that word, "crap"; this is very revealing. What causes you to be your parents' child, your "Relationship" to them, or your "religion". Yes maam! Thanks, that one word, "herd", really clears it up for me. Watch this. . .maybe you'll see it this time; Except for James 1:27, I don't subscribe to, nor have/practice ANY "religion". Watch this. . .maybe you'll see it this time; Except for James 1:27, I don't subscribe to, nor have/practice ANY "religion". Well, if the moderators can ignore and forgive you for this comment, I guess I can to. Kinda like the Newspapers, News copy, Books, Blogs, "scientific findings", "theories", etc., "written by man", huh? So then, where in all of Scripture does GOD institute, ordain, endorse, okays, "religion", as we know it today? Gladly. . .if you first "Define" you. Why do you always ask for that you never give? You occupy about 6 square of space at any given time, yet you dare to claim that "Nowhere is it proven god exists, and especially nowhere is it proven the Christian god exists"; do you realize just how silly that make you seem. You can't even begin to refute, debate, nor rebut my "3 examples", so you feign a "seriously feel bad for" me. As for your "Nostradamus", his writings were nothing more than the muddled way "horoscopes" are written today. BTW, Biblical Prophets of GOD were accurate 100% of the time (which negates your "Nostradamus" and his "prophetical writings", huh?). . .otherwise they were to be deemed as "false prophets". Did you know that there are 86,400 seconds in a full day? That means that, in this digitized world we live in, that your "broken clock is right twice a day", for only 2 seconds that entire day. . .or really only one second, depending on whether it became "broken" during the A.M. or the P.M., huh? So before you go trying to sound all philosophical, scholarly, and thinking that you and "Nostradamus" accomplished something by being "right" one or two seconds in every 86,400, think about how GOD is laughing at you.
So it's supposed to be a given that god exists because I occupy "6 square of space" at any given time. If something is so obvious then why bother attempt to come on here and debate it. Because even if your examples were right, they do not prove god exists. Do you even know what proof means? Here's your 3 examples again for everyone to see.. Your arrogance does not help the fact that you are wrong and have no proof. If you were smart, you would stop trying to debate that there is proof god exists and argue that, "well hey, that's what faith is!". But maybe you know that would result in a loss for you, so you keep dragging it out, it's really painful to watch. Well if he or the horoscopes are right even once then it validates everything else they say, according to your logic. Haha, god I'm embarrassed for you bud. You probably won't understand this but.. If there are a room full of 1000 prophets and they all make prophecies, and only 2 of them are correct in their prediction, they then become "prophets of GOD" and the rest get beaten or killed (whatever the savages did back then) for being false prophets. If this scenario happens many times, obviously the "prophets of GOD" success rating is going to be 100%. LOL, did you even have a point here? Your last sentence implied that you made a point.
@ Nehemiah nothing for me? you do not have any light for the darkness that is in your reasoning. why do you reject the word of god and jesus both in favor of some abstract confusing idea?