GOD Minus "religion" Equal the Following:

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Nehemiah, Jul 17, 2009.

  1. #1
    Do you not yet know, have you not yet understood that THE GOD of Scripture is not about "religion", but rather, RELATIONSHIP?

    And with THE GOD of RELATIONSHIP, here is what you've got:

    • THE GOD (before and after you) able to Create you;
    • THE GOD willing to Create you, in spite of what and how it may turn out;
    • THE GOD able and willing to give you all the HE IS. . .except [for now] what HE IS---"DADDY";
    • THE GOD WHO is Just and Fair. . .period;
    • THE GOD willing to give you the ability to choose. . .with predetermined consequences to go with each and every choice;
    • THE GOD willing and able to allow you the space to "freely" choose HIM. . .or otherwise;
    • THE GOD willingly able to, Eternally, abide by your choice, whatever your ably willing choice may be/have been.

    The next time (or the time before that) your kids reject you, maybe its because they don't understand the difference between "religion (their perception of you and your way)" and RELATIONSHIP (who and what you're really all about).

    It is written, "Be not deceived, GOD [our CREATOR] is not mocked, for whatever one sows [even if done in total ignorance], that shall you reap also. (Galatians 6:7)"
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    you have no understanding what god of abraham is supposed to be. god does nothing inspite of what it may turn out. everything turns out just like god wants
     
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    Nehemiah Peon

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    Since you brought up "abraham", question: Abraham believed on JESUS CHRIST, why don't you?
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #4
    I can't speak for pizzaman, but for me it's for the same reason you don't believe in vishnu. Why don't you believe in vishnu?
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    what that has anything to do with what you are tlking about?
    don't you see how repeatedly you show the same corrupt idea about god.
    son of god is not going to help you resolve this corruption. but son of man does. just accept jesus as he said "son of man". not as satan say "son of god".
    [your words]. then you won't need to make corrupt arguments about your god.
     
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    Nehemiah Peon

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    You didn't answer my question. Can you not handle it? Maybe all you can do is give opinions and not very well thought out advice, but cannot answer questions, huh?
     
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    Nehemiah Peon

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    Seems as though you have trouble speaking for yourself as well; do you know the difference between "in" and "on"?
    In answer to your question, simple, GOD got to me first, and spoiled me for all the "wannabe's".
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    i do not know if he did or did not. i would guess that in the jewish religion he would not have called him son of god or god.
     
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    Nehemiah Peon

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    #9
    Nuff said.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    if it would make you feel better i am sure that abraham would not have called jesus son of god or god. deal with that if you want
    by the way it was your own advice that you objected to.
    does your head hurt?
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    Oh so you believe it based solely on which one you were exposed to first? Makes sense. I mean, it couldn't be because it was the most plausible and convincing, what with it being absolute bollocks and all.

    Thanks for destroying the remain shred of your credibility and admitting that your religion is the result of how you were raised, not how you think.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    Are you going to be the next Mary? When are you going to give birth? :rolleyes::D
     
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    Nehemiah Peon

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    #13
    Then you can be equally "sure that" you're wrong (yet again); you really should study more on and about that you wish to debate.

    Try and keep up here stOx, your question was about GOD and "gods"? My response was, "GOD got to me first, and spoiled me for all the 'wannabe's'". . .like "vishnu".
    Now then, if you had the slightest iota of knowledge of that which you constantly try and debate, you'd know that GOD IS HIS WORD. . .and HIS WORD IS GOD; and since HE IS invisible (in the physical realm) but very audible. So to anyone who has believed ON HIM, believed by FIRST hearing (Romans 10:17) HIS WORD; THE VERY and MOST "plausible and convincing" WORD to result in, and ever be encountered by, mankind.
    But you and your buddies don't want to discuss/debate Scriptures, do you? Because you all can't, can you? Its so very sad that you guys are so down on what you're so very obviously not up on.

    Again, if you'd pay attention, you'd know and understand that, with the one exception of James 1:27, I don't subscribe to, nor practice, any "religion". . .not even "christianity", as it is viewed and practiced in this day and age.

    WOW!!! "Thanks for" proving that, when nothing of substance can be found and said, just say something stupid; What now, are you trying hard to prove there is a such thing as a DUMB question(s)? Claiming to have evolved/descended/came down from a monkey must have wore out for you huh?
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    show me in jewish torah where he said that.
    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/Torah.html
    you are debating with yourself. i m just pointing out the corruption in your logic.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #15
    Why should we discuss the text? They are simply theories and opinions about god written by men not at all supported by fact.

    Your best bet is to discuss text to someone who is already a believer. You're trying to convince us that any of this is real. So far you haven't established that any of the text is backed up by science/evidence/fact, so what's the point in debating it?
     
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    Nehemiah Peon

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    Try reading Bereshit 22, the first 14 verses. . .and do pay close attention to what you read, lest you miss it.
     
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    Nehemiah Peon

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    Because you, especially, show forth supreme ignorance when you attempt to do otherwise. . .such as all those "contradictions" you once thought that "The
    Bible
    " contained/contains.
    How long has mankind known/realized that the best way to do major surgery on an individual is to first put that person to sleep? Yet GOD put Adam to sleep at least 6500 hundred years before enough people had died of shock from being cut up while still conscious, huh?
    How long before mankind discovered that the safest time to circumcise a male child is not before 8 days after his birth? But Levitical law knew this way on way back when, huh?
    How long has mankind known about "the springs of the sea (Job 38:16)"? Yet the book of Job (probably the old book of Scripture), mentions them millenniums before their discovery, huh?

    Now, like I stated before, "But you and your buddies don't want to discuss/debate Scriptures, do you? Because you all can't, can you? Its so very sad that you guys are so down on what you're so very obviously not up on.". Bet!!!
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #18
    Those 3 examples do not prove anything.
     
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    #19
    total nonsense, as always.
    I'm waiting for you new account to get banned again.
    This is a webmaster forum. money talks . $$$. not a discussion group of missionaries.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    no messiah no jesus. i did see the part that you probably want to point out , but that is just stretching it beyond recognition and you forget that they called jesus lamb based on torah trying to make him fit not the other way around.
    again
    satan made man disobey god. now we know that jesus said he is son of man and he never said he is son of god. and are we to believe jesus or not. we also know what god told moses and yet we have to ignore all these things that are said so clearly and look for small hidden message to ignore the word of god. why? god doesn't use hidden messags. god doesn't want to confuse you. satan does.
     
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