When will you make payment to your writers?

Discussion in 'Copywriting' started by hygoer, Jul 8, 2009.

  1. #1
    say if you need an article to be posted on ezinearticles.com, and you got a writer works for you, the writer sends you article, then you post on EZ.com
    when will u pay him/her?
    immediately once the writer finished or when the article gets published?
     
    hygoer, Jul 8, 2009 IP
  2. AHN-Jay

    AHN-Jay Peon

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    Once the writer sends it to you.
     
    AHN-Jay, Jul 8, 2009 IP
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    This depends on the agreement you make with the writer. If you want payment to be contingent upon accepted publication, you can certainly make that arrangement.
     
    Y.L. Prinzel, Jul 8, 2009 IP
  4. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    Until it's paid for (unless you have laid out terms that state otherwise) the rights to publish or distribute don't actually belong to you yet.
     
    jhmattern, Jul 8, 2009 IP
  5. hygoer

    hygoer Member

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    thanks guys,
    if i hire a writer and require he/she publish to ezinearticles.com, what's the price normally?
     
    hygoer, Jul 9, 2009 IP
  6. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    There is no "normal" price. Set your budget, and ask their rates. Just know if that if you have a very low budget, you're probably not going to get the greatest work. Just be realistic.
     
    jhmattern, Jul 9, 2009 IP
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    The rates basically depends on the agreement. She is right, there is no normal price. Really depends on your agreement. You can pay half before or you can [ay full after the article has been finished.
     
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    Pinpointcomm Banned

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    Just make sure that if you are outsourcing to a 3rd world country you should always get one or two sample articles in order to get a gist of what kind of work they are doing :) this'll make it easier to see what kind of work you'll be getting from them :)
     
    Pinpointcomm, Jul 10, 2009 IP
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    parsibagan Active Member

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    Sigh! Again the issue pertaining to writers from 3rd world countries. Do the writers of 1st and 2nd :eek: world countries write sans error?
     
    parsibagan, Jul 10, 2009 IP
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    LOL...I must be lucky since in effect I am from a third world country. Funny...you don't see me running around and offer crap quality service, but then again I am more prone to hiring people to work for me. So in the end it works out just fine.
     
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  11. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    Honestly, it has to do with the sheer volume of people in that situation, in this particular forum, who constantly make claims they can't live up to (such as perfect grammar when they can't even write a brief sales thread correctly). People like that prey on clients who are non-native English speakers, knowing they often can't tell the difference between barely understandable and "perfect" writing. They give the others a bad name.

    Are there lousy writers in the US, UK, Australia, Canada, etc.? Absolutely. We have some of those here as well, but the more visible suppliers of poor quality work are the ESL folks. It may not seem fair, but that's just how it is. I know writers in India who surpass my writing in every way (and they also charge more than I do -- great writers don't work for crap pay no matter where they're located if they have any business sense). But they don't represent the majority.

    If you have a problem with the image of writers in 3rd world countries or any specific country, complaining to the people who have that view isn't going to help. Instead put that energy into either A) building a better reputation for yourself and the quality writers in your country so you rise above the stereotypes, or B) speak out against the ones giving you a bad name (and encourage them to do something better). That's far more likely to change things. As long as the bulk of those writers work for next to nothing and provide a level of quality that reflects that, they won't be taken any more seriously in a market of native English speakers on the whole.
     
    jhmattern, Jul 10, 2009 IP
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    I've got a handful of freelance writers wroking for me at the moment. I pay each writer once I have received the work and approved it. I.e, checked it for errors, grammar and run it through copyscape.
     
    ukprowriter, Jul 11, 2009 IP
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    parsibagan Active Member

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    Thanks for sharing my point of view. This is something that I accept without any reservations whatsoever. :)

    P.S.: I have yet to come across a writer who can express his or her view as fluidly as you and I am serious.
     
    parsibagan, Jul 11, 2009 IP
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    Dear JHMattern,

    Your post is one of the most welcoming sights I have seen since following the posts (and subsequently registering) on this forum. In fact, I'm rather glad to know that you have set the record straight for a great many individuals who are clearly misguided about standard stereotypes of writers around the world. Coming from Malaysia myself and getting rejected umpteenth times simply because my surname happens to be Lee, your post is just as good a welcome drink to this resort island of writers as any.

    So, in honor of your aptly put post, I dedicate my virgin post to you!

    Cheers! :)
    Jesse Lee
     
    thyceult, Jul 17, 2009 IP
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    On that note,

    Personally I would like to give fresh samples to prospects that come-a-knocking. Either that or I carry out a proper conversational interview via chat. No point risking or jeopardizing your article due to samples that can be easily faked or "borrowed" when the individual clearly cannot comprehend instructions or carry out a decent conversation. Had bad experiences like those myself.
     
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    The question you ask has a very simple answer: you pay for the article once it reaches you. I personally do not know any writer that will receive payment after the article gets published somewhere. If the article is not published you have to look at the reason why this happens. In most situations good content writers will make modifications if problems appear because they will want to work with you again. The bottom line is choosing an honest content writer.
     
    drakudemine, Jul 17, 2009 IP
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    I write articles for clients from other sites (not at DP yet).. Clients usually pay once I submitted the articles. If there's any problem, they will send back to me for modification.

    As everyone said, it depends on how you deal with the writer. Always make it clear. :)
     
    sukiyaki, Jul 19, 2009 IP
  18. UKPressReleases

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    From the point of view of a writer, I invoice my client before work begins. This is the safest method for myself, as, because I specialise in press releases, I cannot sell on my work if a client disappears or decides not to pay up - the content will be far too specific to the original client and their needs. I've never had a problem with this method from those I have worked with online thus far.
     
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    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    Press releases are my top-selling service as well, and I bill the same way for the vast majority of them. Also, no problems with clients understanding that and accepting it, so I'll toss some added support for what you're saying. When it comes down to writing for your client's very specific audience or market, the work can't often be reused like general Web content can. It makes sense to charge up front.
     
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  20. Sticky Nebula

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    Right after the contractor sends the work is pretty typical, however if they are doing consistent writings you could easily do weekly payout and save yourself the administrative time. Try paying right after the first article the first few times so their comfortable then work towards creating efficiency by paying weekly.
     
    Sticky Nebula, Jul 22, 2009 IP