Please kill the infraction system before it kills DP

Ok.. First off.. I really like DP.. I made a lot of money on DP, so thats mainly the reason I care.. And I really do appreciate that it must be very difficult to run such a chaotic operation. Some kind of rule system must be in place when people from so many different cultures meet and discuss online..

But at the same time I think that the format is essential to consider.. This is a forum. How do you ensure that quality posts are kept visible? By democracy; the best posts are bumped to the top, giving new readers a chance to see the wisdom. Crap posts are left to die without comments.. This is how a forum is organised.

Here is where my concern step in. When you stipulate that people can only post in threads for very specific reasons, you hamper the quality sorting process that the forum format really is. I used to be able to enter the BST section and quickly find great deals.. I cant any more.. The new rule in BST is that new deals are on top and older deals should be buried. No matter the quality of the information or product.

Thats really sad. I dont want to read through 10 pages of forum posts to find quality. I want it right there on top. Now if I find a great product I want to be able to post SOLD in that thread and thereby lifting it up again.

I do understand DPs bumping policy when it comes to ones own posts, you cant vote for your own content multiple times.. It makes sense.. but I really dont understand why you would want to hamper people endorsing quality posts/products that can be found here still.

Personally I have never been banned here, but I have received my share of infractions. All of them have been the inappropriate post type. Now if I was flaunting porn, warez and spyware all over the place I would understand the eagerness to set me in my place. But I got all mine doing what I thought was the purpose of participating in a forum, voting for the top content (actually that is not true.. I also got one for giving away stuff).

So please Digitalpoint.. Let democracy back in.. Fascism does not suite you at all...

 

Because then all I need to do is ask a few of my friends to post SOLD on the thread for my crappy product, therefore keeping it at the top and making it look like a quality product.

 

DON.. I do understand that.. But there must be other options than completely murdering the forum system.. I for one would have no problem with a paid BST for example.. But I am sure there are other options as well..
Though I do no agree that infractions are not for everyone.. I am willing to bet you that any active member (outside of the moderator group) has received one or more infractions since the system was put in place. Infractions are handed out left and right. You know this is true Don.

Buffalo
There will always be cheaters.. But this system is not only hurting the cheaters.. Its hurting everybody who uses DP. Why should the overall content quality be brought down to ensure that we dont get a few bumpers here and there? Why not enforce public policing then.. Give em red if the bump.. Nobody buys from a red.

 

I think Warrior forum has that sort of public moderating...if our community doesn't suit your needs, you can always try theirs...

 

Look.. I tried giving you some feedback from an active user..

It seems that you are all somehow personally offended. You might feel that this is your community, but really it is Shawn Hogans.. None others. So I got as much right to give feedback as you have.

Thanks for the suggestion tiktok.. Really helpful.. DP mod style all the way..

 

There's only one thing I ask, when you're banned because of an infraction - can the message be better than:

"You have been banned because of infractions."

A message saying what infraction you were banned for would send you in the right direction.

 

No.. I dont want a digitalpoint without moderation.. Not at all.. That would potentially make things worse.. And I can follow the infraction system far down the way. And really I did head this post wrong.. What I am really looking for is a moderation in the reasons for giving infractions..

I see how there is a lot of dynamics going on which we as average users dont have to contend with.. Also I know that there are Spammers looking to kill everything online. But still in my view you have to find a balance between giving infractions for spammy behaviour and letting the forum platform work its magic.

I realise that this becomes even more complicated when trying to do business on a forum. But there are alternatives out there.. As I mentioned I would not mind spending 100$ to become a certified seller at DP or a similar system.

Furthermore...
I dont want to debate my own infractions. But let me just say that I am amongst those that has feelt myself thread on for no obvious reasons. I dont consider myself a spammer.. I think my business ethics are great.. So it hurts to get the infraction Email. In some cases for posts a month old.

 

I agreed with mod.. this infraction system is nice and it should continue..this will give user a chance to correct themself before they banned..

 

Bluebelt
I am not talking about legitimate infractions given for spammy behaviour. I am talking about infractions given away for behaviour that really makes the forum "go round". Like posting "great service" in a service providers thread when you are satisfied.. I understand that this can be abused by people that want to.. But people abuse the current system as well?

Instead if bumping their thread they just start a new one.. So how is that helping.. It makes the moderation job much harder since you have to look at thread history to see if a user is spamming.. And trust me.. People that want to spam, will always find a way. Cant we have a moderation system in place that would allow the rest of us to still us DP as a business platform without getting a red dot every time we buy something..

 

I understand that, but if you get an infraction that warrants an automatic ban, you cannot see the infraction you were banned for..

 

Ah, I never realized Infractions were emailed - I thought they were PMed.

Thanks alot!

 

Sure.. But if you get no citied reason and no link to a specific thread.. You are in the dark.. I got those.. Private infraction.. No reason cited...

 

I am so tired of all the bumps and banned people coming back over and over and i wish there was a ID check or something lol more moderators !!

 

Yeah the reason must be specified for every infraction..but most of the time member knows why they got infraction..