Okay first the update is still going on... but lets take a look at things As a reminder, Google uses a distributed system so not all datacenters are updated concurrently.. Take a look at Google Home page still at 10 http://www.google.com News at 4 http://news.google.com/nwshp?hl=en&tab=wn&q= Images at 0 http://images.google.com/imghp?hl=en&tab=ni&ned=us&q= So as you can see they are not persecuting anyone here,, as their own pages show different scores than as should be. Now a run over to Yahoo Home page at 9 as always since Google switched things up//// http://www.yahoo.com/ Cant use images as it is in frameset so finance at 8 http://finance.yahoo.com/ And being it is a new subdomain and service from Yahoo and further proof that Google is slow as molasses, in crawling, indexing and displaying results I present: Yahoo Answers is at 0 http://answers.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDM...wOQRfcwMzOTY1NDUxMDMEc2VjA2ZwBHNsawNwbGluaw-- google rocks! Meanwhile over at MSN Home page at 9 http://www.msn.com/ News at 0 http://search.msn.com/news/results.aspx?FORM=NRIR&q= Images at 0 http://search.msn.com/images/results.aspx?FORM=MSNH&q= Hmmm However Autos is a 7 http://autos.msn.com/default.aspx As is Careers at 7 http://careers.msn.com/ So what does all this mean?? In the grand scheme of things PR is useless to us...we can do little to effect it and we are at Googles mercy at being led to believe what we see is the truth when in fact it isn't. As a reminder PR is updated daily...but you must work for Google to see this. For the rest of us we get to see it once a quarter.....see you in October!!
The reason those pages are returning page rank 0 is becasue there are session specific variables on the URLs making no URL consistant enough to determine a page rank... http://images.google.com/imghp?hl=en&tab=ni&ned=us&q=
Not in my toolbar..... Applies virtual wrench to Google Toolbar in hopes of fixing whatever issue it has....
No. Only if you work for Google is PR live. Otherwise it is updated every 90 days or so. http://www.seocompany.ca/pagerank/page-rank-update-list.html
your all seeing results from different data centres, as the update is still going on the dc are still coming to harmony,lol
I agree though for slightly different reasons. Firstly, it's not an update. Google are just showing us what they already know and have been using for the past three months. It makes me laugh when I read posts about how peoples PR jumped to a PR5 and they're sitting scathing their head as to why their SERPS haven't improved. Why? Because NOTHING has actually changed except the little green bar at the top of their browser. Secondly, PR actually isn't important in itself. Google is a PR10, yet they don't rank for every keyword under the sun. There are countless examples of lower PR pages outranking highr PR pages for the same keyword. PR is just a by-product of good rankings. To rank well you need good links for quality relevant pages. What do these pages have? Usually good PR if they're on a quality site. So in improving your rankings through good links with keyword relevant anchor text, you're also passing good PR to your site. Not that this makes any difference unless you're selling links on your site though
I agree with that, however for me, i just started SEO and when my site jumped from nothing to 3, it was very good for me. It showed that what i was doing made some kind of a difference.
Well I think that PR still means something. At least it shows that Google recongnized that page and gave some rank to it. I agree that given rank by google in toolbar or wherever isn't adequate to the rank in SERPs
why would they rank for every keyword.... google doesnt write content or provide services that are related to every topic imaginable however they do rank 1st for "search the internet," which is relevant to their site
PR is just an indicator of what's going on. All it tells you is how google perceives your page. You can try to improve backlinks and such, and if PR goes up, you're doing well. But it's so slow between public updates, that it's pretty hard to base anything off PR movement, except # of backlinks. It's little a little peak at what's going on in google's head. I'm not sure why it's always the subject of heated discussions about it's worth... it is what it is... vaguely useful, but definitely not worth arguing over.
I can't stand it when people bash page rank. Page rank is very important- it is a measure of the link power of a web page. Obviously google.com with a page rank of ten will not rank first in the serps for "sex" as google is not a porn site. However, the point is that the pages showing on the first page for the keyword "sex" will of course have high page ranks, as "sex" is a very competetive keyword. Ranking is a combination of how optimized your site is for a keyword, the links in your meta tags, the content on your site, and of course you PAGE RANK. If it does not have page rank than it won't rank for anything competetive unless the web page is part of an existing domain that has page rank(i.e. domain/sex.com might be able to rank well for "sex" if domain.com has a high page rank) Page rank is a measure of the importance of a page. So even if pagerank0.com was optimized just as well as pagerank8site.com for the keyword "sex", pagerank0site.com would not stand a chance in competeing with pagerank8site.com
links from quality relevant pages + keyword rich anchor text = high rankings + Pagerank and not, Pagerank = high rankings