they must follow Islamic codes such as head scarves for women in public.

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  1. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #81
    Who does the warning come from? Does he cover the use of taqiyya? Translation...we have invented a religion. We warn you now that you will convert. If you do convert, you will be safe. If you do not, ye will be slaughtered.

    That sounds reasonable to me!


    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=1177136&postcount=325

    I remember just last week, someone was working overtime to quote out of the Bible. Even the New Testament ;)

    http://www.6thcolumnagainstjihad.com/PORTIA_P1.htm

    Number 8 is particularly insightful and most appropriate:

    What are the odds?
     
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  2. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #82
    That's a very reliable souce, a internet forum on military strategy :)
     
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    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #83
    Great job, GTech. Don't worry about the usual nay sayers here. There are many open minded people visiting these threads who appreciate being educated. Wished some of our members were like that as well. :(
     
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    MattUK Notable Member

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    #84
    I'll give a million to one ;)
     
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  5. ST12

    ST12 Active Member

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    #85
    But here is more to come. That will raise most peoples hair.

    Of course the Muslims hate to have the truth of their “prophet” exposed.

    Muhammad was 52 and Aisha was 9 when they married and sexually consummated their marriage.

    Most Western people know it is not in a 9 year old girl's best interest to engage in marriage and sexual relations with a 52 year old man, regardless of the cultural setting. We know that, in our culture today, a person doing such a thing could possible be sent to prison for sex with a minor, statutory rape, or other related laws. Most of us find it questionable for Muhammad, a self proclaimed prophet of God, to do such a thing. We expect a real prophet to know better, or at least hear from God on the matter.

    If true SHAME ON YOUR PROPHET ....... FCKIN MFCKR. He belongs to jail.

    Everyone who is a bit more spiritual will tell you that the human body(ies there are three of them to my knowledge, physical, mental and astral bodies) is (are) not well developed at that age. At the age of nine a girl knows too little, let alone to be a mother or a wife.

    st12
     
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  7. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Nailed ya to a T, didn't it? "hijacked!"

    Only Christians and Jews ;)
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #88
    That was very peace-loving christian like of you to say. :rolleyes:

    hypocrites...
     
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    OH so there is a more appropriate way to approach a child molester?
     
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  10. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #90
    FYI- if we're going to argue about religion, religious figures and religious beliefs, let's at least try to keep it civilized.

    Desecrating ANY religion, religious icon or figure is not going to be tolerated here!

    Especially not to the degree it has been in the last few posts.

    If you feel the need to express your hatred for other religions, I suggest you look to another outlet to do so.

    Mmmkay?

    Ok....proceed with the arguing that never ends.....
     
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  11. SunRise

    SunRise Banned

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    #91
    I don't know much about islam and religion, but I've heard that everyithing in the Qu'ran is true from some muslims.


    So if Muhammad married a 9 year old girl and had sex with her, that constitutes crime in my view. I am sorry if that hurts the muslims.

    I have nothing against the muslims. They are good people, but certainly I don't want them to follow such an example from their prophet.

    I am just trying to put myself in the shoes of those parents who have girls 9 years old. I would never give my daughter no matter who is ordering me to give her for a wife at that age. It is just sick to think about it. He wants that girl for nothing more, but personal sexual satisfaction.

    I have nothing against that prophet. Just his deeds about under aged girls and the treatment of women as commodities.

    SunRise

    I didn't know he has done such things until now.
     
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  12. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #92
    Multiple accounts are not allowed, ST12. You just earned a longer ban.
     
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    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #93
    Despite the fact that you are banned, and cant talk..
    If you dont know much about anything, dont talk about it..
     
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    #94
    Despite that you still feel the need to post your ignorant views?
     
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    #95
    Seems we can agree on the use of word.. "Despite", at least.... :p
     
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    #96
    Me, like I said, you can twist any holy book, or indeed any document by quoting individual lines and ignoring the context that it's written in.

    If you actually bothered to read the souce you'll see that it's a misquote. Though that doesn't seem to prove your agenda so we'll just ignore it huh?

    Exactly, again proves my point that you can twist any text if you want to.

    I guess if we want to keep isolating 'real' Mulims, those that aren't terrorists, tarring them with the same brush as we do the terrorists, then we'll just turn them against the west/christianity/jews/USA/UK as well.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5144526.stm
    I guess you'd tell his family he wasn't a 'real' Muslim as he didn't want to kill his collegaues?
     
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  17. mohdsoft

    mohdsoft Peon

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    #97
    I don't like to subscribe in any of these arguments. However i found that it is absolutely crucial to do so as SOME people here need to be educated and have some more knowledge before they start posting in this forum and wate our time.

    If you go and read about the time that the prophet mohammad (Peace be upon him) lived in, you would have not said what you said about him marring a 9 year old girl.

    Firstly, the issue of the age is not fully resolved. Many muslim scholars say that he married her at the age of 16 but he did the legal marrage contract at the age of 9 so that he will be able to see her mohter's head without her having to wear a scafe infront of him(If you want to know more about this, PM me and i will give you a site or a small book to read about this issue as i don't have much time to write a whole story here).
    But for the sake of argument, i will go with the age of 9 to make you happy.

    Do you know that they used to live in a hot climate country? Do you know what that means?
    It simply mean that a girl in the age of 9 years old will be equal in size and (at that time in matures) to a girl aged 16 -18 years old nowadays and become sexually mature. In hot areas, girls and boys grow up faster and quicker than cold areas.

    Secondly, at that time, people used to get mature at a very early age (will, i am talking about arabia. Not sure about the rest). As an example of this, the prophet sent an army to fight the romans and the leader of this army was a boy aged about 16 years old.

    Any hey, the most important thing is, if you READ about islam. You will know that at that time. The prophet had enemies form his tribe and his city whom were looking for every single mistake he do to annoy him and distract people away from listening to him. If that was a shame thing to do, they would not have let him go away with it without mentioning that. And they didn't say anything about that. Which means that he didn't do anything wrong.

    I hope that i have clarified this issue. Also what you have posted here shows me that you have not read anything about islam. If what you do is you search for words that contain "kill, destroy" and other words in some websites and you copy that phrase taking it out of context, then please do read the whole page before copying some random stuff. Nothing wrong will happen if you read the whole page.
     
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    #98
    hummmm.. thats why they execute 16 years old girl for being raped in Iran..Makes sense.

    Does it mean that one can have sexual intercourse with a 12 years old girl from hot area like Iran because she would be as same as 20 years old chick from Canada ??

    Geez even the thinking of that makes me sick..Please dont educate us about Islam, your arguements are making me sick...
     
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    #99
    That's the same everywhere, many British royalty married in their early to mid teens. I guess it's just people taking todays standards and applying them to something that happened hundreds of years ago.
     
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    #100
    There is a major difference between a 16 year old and a 9 year old.

    no way you can justify getting married to a 9 year old and having a sexual relation with her, unless you are talking about the dark age..
     
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