Do You Think Marijuana Shoud Be Legal Or Not?

Are you dumb, or dumb? Do I need to try crack to know it is bad for you?

My point of view is not uneducated, nor non-experienced -- get your facts straight.

Hahahahah. You're more nice to your family now since you started? You know, it is completely typical of marijuana smokers to do this. They look for things that have become better in their life since the time they began smoking, and then say it is because of marijuana.

Well sorry buddy, but the politicians aren't buying it

I guess their uneducated also!

 

I suggest listening to Ron on this matter,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufekh_SwZd0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0GZznxMC14

You're completely wrong on this buddy. You keep forming assumption off of what people are saying. No you shouldn't try crack and since I'm an open-minded, educated person I understand how to scrap through the bs that is being fed to our society. I'm not giving credit to marijuana for changing my life, I'm simply saying it helps in certain situations. Similar to how people who are addicted to coffee say it helps them become energetic each day and ready to work. Except I'm energetic, ready to work whether I have any green or not. It's all in the individual and their perspective on life. Most people who turn to harder drugs have a crappy perspective and can't cope with the fake reality that has been given to us, so they turn to all drugs, not just weed then off to meth.

The politicians must be waking up to it, there is already medical marijuana in 14 states and it's growing as time goes by. Many politicians are in support of it, some are open about it, some keep their mouth shut about it because they realize how our brainwashed society feels about it. They are scared to be honest and afraid of the media puppets who will read their script and critisize them.

 

Absolutely.

It's insane that in a society where drugs as dangerous as cigarettes & alcohol (which are directly responsible for hundreds of thousands of American deaths every year) are legal that a drug as harmless as marijuana is illegal. You are either for basic personal freedoms or you're not. You can't logically think it's OK for the more dangerous drugs (alcohol & cigarettes) should be legal while the less dangerous (marijuana) is not. It makes no sense.

To make it clear: I'm not advocating for alcohol & cigarettes to be made illegal, I think all drugs should be legalized. That being said, I think some governmental regulation (such as allowing alcohol & cigarettes only for adults) is reasonable when applied to drugs.

 

Just one question. How does this fit into Politics and Religion?

Anyway, making the shit legal leads to tax. Tax leads to an attempt to avoid tax. Avoidance of tax leads to more people doing more time than not.

Legalize it, than Tax Doritos and Mountain Dew. Problem solved.

 

Doritos and Mountain Dew are already taxed .

It honestly should be taxed, it should be a set price as everything else should be also. Tax is just an illusion for people to think they are buying something for less than they really are. Now people understand that but still have to deal with it because they are attached the the governments teet and have a dependency addiction.

 

2:45 of the first video -- "When you smoke marijuana, it leads to harder drugs"

What part of that does not go through your mind. I don't care if you use yourself as an example -- for the MAJORITY it does lead to harder things. For all we know, it has for you also, but you're just not going to say it in order to better your argument.

All Ron Paul said is basically that it will stop the war on drugs. Well, fact is, this war on drugs (the most violent part of it) is at the borders. Most of these people at the borders fighting with law enforcement are already criminals -- let alone their drug dealing. Maybe it's best they are being taken car off. If we let them bring marijuana in, who know what is next.

Ron Paul also said nicotine is addictive. What is his point? I think we all figured that out a while ago. Fact of the matter is, nicotine doesn't lead people to try harder drugs, unlike marijuana often does. Keyword often -- had to say that before you go off again.

I honestly am not a person who would kill my self if marijuana was legalized. Not at all. I really wouldn't care. On the other hand, there are so many downsides to legalizing it -- I'm not going to come in here and say, you guys win. Cause in the end, if we legalize it, some people win. If we don't legalize it, some people win. There is no perfect solution to this.

 

I agree with your last statement about the governmental regulation.

 

There are legions of them. Here's one group:


Patients Out of Time

In states of the US with an active movement for medical cannabis, the curative and ameliorative properties of the plant in various forms are well known. The spokesman for the cause, Jack Herer, has been demonstrating the efficacy of a non-psychoactive topical preparation at healing skin lesions. The scar on his leg is enormous and healing nicely.

I suggest you open your mind and world to the millions of folks who, frankly, are much more knowledgeable than you appear to be about the properties of the cannabis plant as food, fiber and medicine, as well as mood enhancement. There is a mountain of positive data regarding the benefits of this versatile plant, including The Emperor Wears No Clothes, by the aforementioned Jack Herer.

Read it and then get back to us.

But somehow I suspect you will just keep arguing...

 

I did not "argue" -- I did exactly what everyone else did, debate. What am I supposed to do, just quit and say "you're right, I'm wrong"? You're ridiculous.

None of these people really said to legalize it for medical purposes only. They just said LEGALIZE it. If it is going to save peoples lives, then sure, use it for medical purposes (which is already somewhat done). This has nothing to do with legalizing it for personal use. Smokers will do anything to make it seem as if they are right.

NONE of the people on this forum who have argued against me have done so because they have cancer, and want it to help their treatment. They are all in favor of legalization because they want to use it for personal use. Please read through the entire thread before you come in here and make one uneducated post.

More knowledgeable than me? What basis are you speaking on? Because of my opinion? It seems like you guys get mad every time someone goes against you. No one has said anything directly about the points I have made (against legalization). You guys simply come back EVERY TIME with something unrelated to what I said.

 

I would say that your opinion is uninformed, and based on the post you quoted in the OP, utterly devoid of logic, although it is not short of spelling and grammatical errors.

The problem with this line of reasoning (which ought to be obvious) is that the violence is not due to marijuana, but rather the illegal trafficking in it. The contraband status of the flowers have made them the source of illicit wealth and therefore armed struggle. Of course, the current violence is between traffickers and the army, so legalization would dissolve the conflict immediately. In fact, legalizing it in the North would eliminate the associated violence in Mexico, even if Mexico did not legalize, because Latin American cannabis would cease to be a source of gang funding.

You seem to be missing the point...turf wars over cannabis would be pointless if the law respected legitimate channels of distribution, such as in the Netherlands.

Don't make assumptions about what anyone here has read.

 

Since I am no longer bound by random drug tests relegated by the bastards who employ people - Fucking A - I think marijuana should not only be legal, but smoked on a regular basis by EVERYONE!

 

The post is not missing any logic -- it is simply my opinion.

I'm not making an assumption...Did you sit down and read all 100+ posts? Oh yeah, you must have

 

You know what I just realized -- half of my friends smoke marijuana, if not more. I'm not even really against it, but it's fun to see people never give up.

On the other hand, this has drove a lot of traffic to my blog, LOL. Mission accomplished.

To everyone posting here;

Don't take any personal. I just don't want something like this legal with little restrictions. If we legalize it, kids will start smoking even yonger -- that's a fact.

I really don't want my kids (when I have kids) to smoke marijuana -- do you?

 

I scanned the relevant points and skipped posts which bored me. As is my prerogative.

Stop harassing me in PM. Once more and I'll put you on ignore.

And for your information, cannabis is perfectly legal to grow, possess, and use in several states, including the one I am in, with a simple doctor's recommendation.

 

What? I never sent that.

 

Edited in response to your editing...

Wow, now you are faking PM's...I do not insult the sexuality of people I do not know, nor do I employ offensive epithets about homosexuals.

I CERTAINLY WOULD NEVER SAY I HATE HOMOSEXUALS. You are a liar and a bad one.

This requires a report to a mod. Your PM will be forwarded, as will your fraudulent post.

Too late. I forwarded the PM you sent me to a mod.

 

... Anybody can quote a message and say I sent it...

I would do it to prove my point, but no need -- I think people know what I mean.

 

Mods can see the PM in my CP, no way to fake that.

I'm posting every PM you send me. Fair warning.

 

Nothing I said in the PM was against TOS. I simply mocked the fact that marijuana is not legal. No problem with that.

 

First of all, before I get into this debate, I think that attempting to sabotage someone by claiming that they sent such messages is a little low don't you agree? Especially when you are somewhat losing the argument amanamission...