Why do I believe Muhammad is not a true prophet.

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  1. kashifpervez455

    kashifpervez455 Active Member

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    #61
    Well To Be Very Clear ......

    I Belief In Islam ..

    AFew (1%) Reasons :-

    1- Every Thing Mentioned In Holy Quran Is Logically And Scientifically Proved To Be Correct 80%

    and 20% Is ( Heaven , Angels , Soul And All Things Which Human Can't See )

    Now Decide Your Self 80% Which Is Visible Is Enough To Follow 20% And God Will Never Shows 80% Wrong And Put The Person On Wrong Path.

    2- Not A Single Verse Is Against Humanity

    3- What Media Shows Now Adays About Islam Is Totally Wrong ...

    4- Muslim Is A Person Who Submit His Will To Almighty Allah .... ( Now If Some One Do Any Thing Wrong In The Name Of Islam Is Not First A Perfect Muslim OR Have No Knowledge Of Islam )

    5- As A Muslim We Respect Each And Every Messenger ......

    6- What Ever Told 1400 Years Back In Islam Is Now Day By Day Is Proved To Be Correct [One Of Them Is Their Will Be One Disease Have No Cure ( Aids ) -- Time Will Run Fast .... Just Think Your Self And Compare Yourself From Past Year How Much The Time Is Running Fast ....

    Now Adays Many Muslims Not Properly Following Islam Due To Which Anti-Islamic Force Takes Advantage And Make A Wrong Picture Of Islam .

    I MySelf Not Properly Follow Islam But What Islam Says Is Right And I Am Wrong .











     
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  2. campolar

    campolar Peon

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    #62
    Is this the reason America conducts wars all the time? That's just a question!

    Saudi Arabia is the main land for Muslims. That country did no wars. They have had a good friendly relation with America and other countries.

    Islam DOES NOT teach violence! We know Jesus came. We agree Jesus, Moses, Muhammed, and MANY others were all prophets of the same God. All sent down to explain the same thing. But after Mohammed, God decided no more. They should learn of their own now.
     
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  3. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #63
    Huh?

    That's because they've asked the US to protect them on several occasions.. Remember without the US in the 60's, Camels, sand and salt water is all the Saudis would have had. We found oil for them, showed them how to get it and the rest is history. If we really did "conduct wars" all the time, we'd have taken the place over long ago.

    Er, actually, Islam does teach violence. To those that teach it and follow it, it may not seem violent. However the harsh reality is, it is.

    Sometimes you have to step back and look at things from all sides to see something for what it is.
     
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  4. Truth777

    Truth777 Peon

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    #64
    Did God said that or Muhammad?

    I don't believe in it and many others don't too....
    First of all Islam is not the most humane religion and belief system in the world. The reason Muhammad said that is because he wanted total control over everybody. Unlike Jesus for example.
    Jesus and Mohammad can hardly be compared on just about everything.
    Their spiritual life and personal example speaks volumes.

    One was after healing people preaching peace and love and about the Kingdom of God.
    The other one was after politics, wars and even after women as young as 6 years old.
    Mohammad even possessed a slave and have been selling people to for money.
    (Why in the world BTW a prophet needs a marriage to a 6 year old girl?
    I don't want to have a 50 year old man for a friend who thinks marriage to a 6 year old girl is approved by God. Let alone to accept this man's teaching of high morals.)

    And about all those wars for Mecca, God is everywhere. If Mohammad was a messanger of God, God could have talked to him even in if he was on Mars, there was no need for wars for Mecca, there was no need so many people to get killed in the name of Allah from Muhammad's hand.
     
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  5. campolar

    campolar Peon

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    #65

    Saudi arabia knew it had oil. They knew how to take it out. They were already using it. The commercial use started when they and america setup a company called "ARAMCO" Those are initials. That company still exists and is the largest american oil company there now.

    And Islam does not teach violence. No religion does. If you can prove me wrong, i'd like to listen.
     
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  6. imad

    imad Peon

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    #66


    I just noticed this lol, don't worry, I won't be banned cos as far as I know I did not violate the forum terms, and you know this very well, so do not try to take credit of it or maybe act bossy, cos you make yourself look like an idiot then, if I or anybody violated terms, then I hope forum rules regarding that case will be implemented.


    btw, why do you assume that this is a Christian forum? it might be Atheistic? or Jewish, right?
     
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  7. kacangijo

    kacangijo Peon

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    #67
    QOTD:
    What do you think Paradise is a place for ordinary people who use white lies, cheat, envy, fight others for personal selfish benefits, serve only their own interest, kill others will enter it?
     
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  8. hiteshb

    hiteshb Well-Known Member

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    #68
    "Killing Humans" is it not against Humanity. (You must say, nothing is against Islam)

    And what you show is correct ?


    I give my will to my god. (So doesn't mean I am true follower. Allah is no more then word God.)

    Already Mohammad Mention that there will no more messenger from God (Allah). He is last, final and aggressive prophet. Now, if Allah thinks that Human need to be again taught and he send one more messenger, who will believe him ? Something rude don't you see

    So, if solution to AIDS comes, ISLAM will not be true ?


    Because Prophet didn't gave chance to new generation to edit it. If it would have been given, Islam would have most flexible and adopted religion. You don't respect to women nor you give to any other religious person.

    So, as per law you are not Muslim. :cool:

    I think you are not aware of ISLAM yet. Don't kid unless you know. :rolleyes:
     
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  9. george.UK

    george.UK Active Member

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    #69
     
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  10. hiteshb

    hiteshb Well-Known Member

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    #70
    As I said, I will no more indulge in P/R Section.

    I don't think, whatever Mohammad said is correct. Allah (God) must send other person to keep the faith intact. Today, lot of misconception, misunderstanding and wrong path (terrorist) are adopted. So, should not God come and save the people from going wrong path.
     
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  11. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #71
    Sorry, though it was SUN Oil and meant 30's... Either way the relationship has worked to the Saudi's advantage more so than the US.

    At some point the oil will be GONE, and so too will the power that accompanied it.

    Sure seems like it.

    I can think of several that do.

    All one do is start reading passages from the Quarn'.
     
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  12. northpointaiki

    northpointaiki Guest

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    #72
    Just a historical note - Mia mentions "60's oil," then seemingly googles something and talks about Sun Oil, but I don't believe either are accurate, unless I've got it wrong (I'm going on memory). I believe Ibn Al Saud, the eventual Founder of Saudi Arabia, was concluding at least tenuous agreements with British interests as early as the '20's, and at the unification of the Saudi Peninsula under the House of Saud, Saud concluded oil formal relations with Standard Oil of California, in the early 30's. This company morphed into Aramco, as mentioned.

    I guess I'm also a bit troubled in the intimation made, at least by my read, that it was purely American genius and Saudi ignorance that nevertheless devolved to Saudi benefit. This presumption ignores Ibn Al Saud's personal shrewdness, incisive acumen, and monumental charisma; Saud's story I find a remarkable one, to be honest, and it is worth the looking into. (If you have an interest in unifying "Founders," as I do - from Oda Nobunaga, Toyotomi Hideyoshi and Tokugawa Ieyasu of Japan, Vercingetorix of Celtic Gaul, Alfred the Great of England, Saud...usually, fascinating reads...).

    I agree with Mia that a purely commodity economy is in for deep pain in the long run, if it doesn't capitalize on this by strategic thinking and structural changes to the production mix.
     
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  13. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #73
    You haven't got it wrong, Mia as usual doesn't know what he is talking about but that has never stopped him from posting. :D
     
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  14. SuviCyriacNadakuzhackal

    SuviCyriacNadakuzhackal Well-Known Member

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    #74
    You got it right!
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #75
    Classic imad. Thanks for sharing the Muslim perspective.
     
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  16. imad

    imad Peon

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    #76
    Classic browntwn, as I been telling you always, if you think it is wrong, refute it.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #77
    It is your opinion. There is nothing to refute.

    It reveals much about your thinking when you say Christianity is from the devil.

    Having you tell us what Muslims, like you, think of the Christians, Jews, Hindus, and Americans is enlightening. I always end up wondering why everyone pretends that Islam is a tolerant and peaceful religion. You make it clear in nearly every post that it is not.
     
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  18. imad

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    #78
    Wrong, I did not say an opinion, I stated facts, there been so much to refute, I wonder how you did not see it in my posts? from crusades, to witch burning, to pedophilia priests, to persecution of Jews, to Rwanda .. and many more from ancient, old, and recent history, are these of angels? lol

    Islam is tolerant, and peaceful, and that's why Muslims did not destroy Christian holy places in the holy lands, despite they ruled there for moer than 800 years, what else than tolerance can this be described? and this is just one example of so many, both Jews and Christians admit it.

    for Muslims, Christians can believe whatever they want, God, son of God, family of Gods.. whatever, but when they tried in the past to force these beliefs on Muslims, Muslim unlike the other weak nations that been burned alive, did not turn the right cheek, and let Christianity use its sword and terrorism to convert people from truth to dark.

    that's the point, again, if you feel any part in this was wrong, please, go ahead and refute it ;)

    lol I know you can't, cos you know it's 100% true

    so you will keep yapping without adding anything useful, as usual.
     
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    campolar Peon

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    #79
    You got cojones. This could very well get you banned too. You should get so angry, its just talking :)

    I guess in simple words, he is saying that Islam has too much proof to stop believing in it. And Islam does not teach voilence or jihad of type which is used by terrorist...
     
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  20. ChaosTrivia

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    #80
    Phorah existed, but not enslaved the sons of Israel.
    I am saying that there is no evidence at all that this story ever happened. If you know of any, please let me know.
    These are all fairy tales, and you are wasting your life - a one time opportunity, in believing in this kind of childish lies
     
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