Do You Think Marijuana Shoud Be Legal Or Not?

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  1. Joehema

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    #81
    That's is not true at all, Any mature person that smokes weed is smart enough to know not to smoke in public. "Out of sight, Out of Mind" ... What people don't know won't hurt them ...


    People don't smoke weed for fun... They smoke it because relaxing or they enjoy it.

    I'm not going to trust you on this one.


    Do you watch people? You see how many people smoke weed in there house compared out side? Honestly, come on I have gone there more then my fair share of stuff in my live. I don't see any truth in what your saying.

    Also would it be fair to say weed is less addictive then online games like world of warcraft.. lol
     
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    #82
    I truly did not understand half the things you said. And no, I did not "watch" people to observe this. Did you "watch" them to know they only do it inside their house. If you're going to throw a statement like that at me, please think before you say it.
     
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  3. Joehema

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    #83
    You said people start smoking weed in there house but they get board.. So they find other places to get high like the park.. Witch is not true at all, If your a young kid then yes I guess you would go to park? If your an adult then your not going to run around town getting high because your house is not fun to get high in.. People have life's.. They get off work and smoke a nice little joint to relax, maybe have a beer in the backyard at the same time.. Nothing close to what your posting.


    False...

    Now how do you know this? Links, Source?
     
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    #84
    Kind of a stupid question to ask. Can I see the links and sources of adults getting high in their own backyard? Is it the new fad for people to post videos of themselves getting high in public? :confused:
     
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    #85

    It's common sense for the majority of people who smoke. But then again, you don't and never have so I understand why you have such a perspective.

    Tons of people smoke after work to relax and enjoy their private time how THEY want to. They also go out and enjoy their time with it. It's the persons choice to do what they wish with their time, some people choose going to bars or parties. I would rather sit in my room or with a group of friends, thinking about stuff you normally wouldn't, laughing, having a great time, enjoying music more rather than going to a bar, getting drunk and throwing up. Also I don't have to worry about any health effects.
     
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  6. banks1

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    #86
    What you said had nothing to do with what I said. As for your last sentence, please direct yourself here.

    No health effects? :rolleyes:
     
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  7. GReddy4u

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    #87
    It has no permanent health effects such as cancer or corrosion of your liver when consuming alcohol.

    What about your link? It's backed up by opinions, just as yourself. There are no facts there that assist your claims.

    It's far less harmful than than eating mcdonalds everyday, hell it's far less harmful than pretty much anything you do now days.

    I haven't even mentioned the medical purposes to back up my case, or the 20,000+ manufacturing uses hemp could be used for clothing, cars, buildings, etc..

    As for debating with you, I'm finished, I've made my case. I'd rather not debate something which the other person (you) has no knowledge or personal experiences with.

    You probably think Obama is a good president also?


    ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
    our society has gone so far downhill.
     
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  8. banks1

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    #88
    Hahahahaha. As soon as I provided a link from About.com, you're done? I'd take anything from About.com over what you have to say -- in a second, as I'm sure anybody else would also.

    And yes, Obama is a great president. Would you like Bush back?

    I really, really don't need to have smoked to understand anything. I grew up around it. Would me getting high once make any difference? No...

    I never said eating McDonalds everyday is good for you. Once again, you're making assumptions. How do you know what I do everyday?
     
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  9. GReddy4u

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    #89
    Of course you would take About.com's word. Possibly one day you will wake up and you will have a different perspective about life and the things around you. You've obviously grown dependent on your government if you think that about Obama. I'm not going to start any political debates, because I doubt you have even done your own research about that. Also, I'd rather not hear about.com quotes or you repeating what the controlled media networks you probably watch. Destroying a currency, 10+ trillion in debt, communism, supporting the global warming fraud that over 60 thousand degreed scientists signed a petition against it.

    and negative, not Bush. I don't support people who are in favor of a one world government or nationalization, etc..or pointless wars...and so on.

    Ron Paul is the main person I'd rather see in office, I suggest you look into it, many people are waking up to him ever since he ran last year.

    How do I know what you do everyday? I don't, It's just easy to assume by now that you are have turned into exactly the kind of person the people in control of you want. I'll let it at that. Do some research mate.

     
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  10. Joehema

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    #90

    No Positive Health Affects? Marijuana is going to be the next medical miracle once they invest more money in its research. It has already been proven to stop cancer cells form dividing and multiplying and it also kills them while not affecting the healthy normal cells.

    But yes, It makes your blood pressure go up a bit so its not worth making it legal... (Has anyone died of a heart attack after they smoked a joint?)...

    Also..

    "# Distorted perception (sights, sounds, time, touch)
    # Problems with memory and learning
    # Loss of coordination
    # Trouble with thinking and problem-solving "

    I don't have any problem learning or have any problems with memory while I do work online. If anything it helps me concentrate and work a lot better. lost of coordination... and trouble with thinking and problem-solving.. Makes me laugh never experienced loss of coordination lol.


    http://www.cannabisnews.org/united-...e-ingredient-in-marijuana-kills-brain-cancer/

    ..

    If you did smoke weed then you would know the effects not just something you read form an old fear campaign that made it illegal in the first place.
     
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    #91
    When did I EVER say there are no positive health effects...? I simply said there are negatives. Nonetheless, I never said there aren't any positives.

    I guess I should also point out a few other things, which I have not pointed out yet.

    At least for young adults, marijuana increases the likelihood of them experimenting with MUCH harder drugs. Those drugs have much, much worse health effects. Now, don't come back at me with "Oh, I only smoke marijuana, and I would never try anything else". You're either lying, or that is just you. Once again, I've seen many marijuana smokers start there, and then move up to harder drugs. If you think you can prove me wrong, go for it.

    Marijuana also causes many people to lose motivation. Legalizing it will create a society of unmotivated people.

    Even if the legalization of marijuana will help for a few years (help the economy I mean), the long term social effects it would have make the legalization not worth it at all.

    Also, for your information:

    "According to an American Cancer Society article, marijuana impairs the immune system, enhances tumor growth and causes bronchitis and lung cancer, thanks to it containing four times the amount of the carcinogenic substance known as tar, which is also used in cigarettes"

    http://media.www.thespartandaily.co....Poison.Should.Not.Be.Legalized-1493910.shtml
     
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  12. GReddy4u

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    So now you're saying legalizing marijuana will create an entire society of unmotivated people? Sure some people would rather be unmotivated but as long as they are living a good life and nice to others, why is it such a problem? That's like saying, "If you legalize alcohol, it will create a society of drunks that beat their wives" Yes, some people when drunk cause problems but the majority drink it to sit back, relax, and enjoy their day a little better, much like the large majority of maryjane users.

    We should let the individual make their own choices and live their life as they please, as long as they aren't interfering with the lives of others. Similar to how people have the choice to drink alcohol and ruin their livers, or pay for prescription pain pills that ruin their health even more and cause long term dependencies.
     
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    #93
    Your making it sound like the only reason people do harder drugs is because they smoked marijuana first. Alot of people don't smoke weed but like to get drunk and go sniff some coke or smoke some crack. The plant dose not tell you what drugs to do.. You are responsible for your actions.

    Also if it was legal there would be laws still... Just like drinking.. You wouldn't be able to drive while having thc in your system. You wouldnt be able to roll a joint and smoke it on the side of the streets. Just like you can't drink in public.
     
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    #94
    You can't always let people make their own decision -- sorry. That is not the way things work in our society. If that was how things worked, murders would be free as murders, rapists would be free as rapists. This isn't a TV show -- you can't just live your life as you want. There are RULES.

    I never said the only reason people do harder drugs is because they smoked marijuana...I simply said it is definitely ONE of the few reasons.
     
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    So it's okay for people having a choice to buy and drink alcohol even though the risks and negative effects are 200 fold that of marijuana?
     
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    #96
    This may sound contadictory, BUT I'm personally against smoking cigarettes, weed, recreational drugs, and alcohol. However, I would like to end the war on drugs. I don't want to pay for your rehabilitation, I don't want to pay for a non-violent person to be in prison because they like to get high, and I don't want to pay for the police to enforce all this. If someone is out endangering the public by doing something such as driving drunk or high, then I would support arresting them. Otherwise, I would just rather live how I want to live, and other people can do what they think is right. I think that I would rather legalize it...
     
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    #97
    Why do you keep comparing it to alcohol? This is not what the topic is even about. If you're so against alcohol, why don't all your effort into making it illegal? :D
     
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    Because if it was legal alcohol and cigarettes are what people would look at and decide how it would be regulated. They are substances that would play a huge roll on how it is disturbed and what laws would in force it. We are not against alcohol and do not want it illegal. We are saying history tells us getting drunk leads to a lot worst things then getting high. You have a problem with someone smoking a joint but not with someone drinking a beer... You have a problem when we compare having a drinking to smoking a joint. Witch is totally hypocritical, If this is not true give me some reasons WHY you agree alcohol is legal and weed should not be. Only thing you have posted is a few small health effect and alcohol is by far worst but I'm sure you have a drink every once in a while at least, right?

    Your trying to over weigh the small negative effects with the large positive effect.

    Also for your information that was written in 2001. They have done a lot more research since them. The article I posted is a article from April 2, 2009.. THC is the closes cure for cancer they are working on and atm it is looking good. If there was better government funding for the research and pushed the research harder we could find the cure, were not too far away what seemed impossible years ago.

    Here is a quote form my more "up-to-date" article.
    http://www.cannabisnews.org/united-...e-ingredient-in-marijuana-kills-brain-cancer/



    Here is a funny way to compare them.
    You drink too much, you stumble, puke,your hungover the next morning.
    You smoke too much, you get tired, you go to sleep, wake up feeling 100% in the morning.
     
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    #99
    I admire your dedication to debate this. At least you are backing up your points with some resources. Question though -- I really don't believe that THC is the closet cure for cancer. In all honesty, if it was, don't you think there would be outrage by the family members of those suffering from cancer to make it legal? I haven't seen that at all. I'm going to have to see more than one site that says that.

    FYI, some of those effects really aren't that "small".
     
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    Here are some links for you to check out, but then again why would you believe what doctors and people who have experienced it over your uneducated non experienced point of view.

    How can you state "some of those effects really aren't that "small".
    Really makes a lot of sense coming from someone who's never tried it.

    Different strains (sativa and indica) give you different feelings. One is more of a body feeling that is used for pain relief and at night can aid in the help of sleeping (people with insomnia, etc...) Much better alternative to the dependend perscription pills that cause more problems than they solve in the long run. Sativa is more of an uplifting, energetic feeling.

    Hell I'm now more nice and apperciative of my family and the world around me ever since I started a while back.


    http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/viewanswers.asp?questionID=000129


    http://www.cancerlinksusa.com/chemo/marijuana_use_in_cancer.asp

    Cancer patient pushes for medical marijuana
    http://www.mpp.org/states/new-jersey/news/cancer-patient-pu.html
     
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