Should I go ahead with planning a site around this keyword?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by GReddy4u, Jun 29, 2009.

  1. #1
    Due to obvious reason I can't state the actual keyword but below I will list some information about it. Any suggestions are welcome.

    Keyword: 3 words
    Google Adwords Search Volume May: Roughly 202,000
    Global monthly search volume: Roughly 248,000

    Amount of results for "keyword" in google = "1 - 10 of about 7,000"
    Results without quotes = Results 1 - 10 of about 87,700,000 (none include the actual keyword... Top results are sites such as youtube, etc...would they be that high up just because of being high PR, and could a site with the actual keyword optimized throughout on many articles, posts, achieve #1 easily...sounds like it would...

    Google Adwords competition meter = Roughly 15% full (seems to be exaggerated in my opinion)
    All search results for the keyword are not seo optimized at all, nor is the keyword used more than 5 times (zero in the unquoted search) in the entire site. The majority of results are from a certain page on a website that has the keyword listed one time on a footer, on that single page.


    Also the "keyword.com" is available, and their are a few other similar keywords, that I could include in the site, all which if searched by someone on google would be related to what they are interested in.

    I appreciate any suggestions :)
     
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  2. ApexSEORM

    ApexSEORM Peon

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    #2
    search volume is a little low for my tastes but it seems a plush easy target.. I say take it down!
     
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  3. baobaoda

    baobaoda Greenhorn

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    oh, it's not easy to me.
     
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  4. GReddy4u

    GReddy4u Active Member

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    #4
    Well it isn't the highest search volume keyword, but it's decent, especially for something that is easy to obtain #1 spot.

    A few of my contacts are making $5 per day on keywords that have 25k searches per month and they are number 1. So I imagined, $5 per day times 8-14 = $40-$70 per day
     
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  5. ~ServerPoint~

    ~ServerPoint~ Banned

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    #5
    Good domain name is always good index before you start. But at the same time I suppose you understand that the content of the web site is the main thing you will need pay attention
     
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  6. GReddy4u

    GReddy4u Active Member

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    Yes I understand that.

    Also would it be smart to have the domain of the exact keyword as opposed to a related niche as the domain + they content optimized heavily for the keyword? Would it really make much of a difference in this case?
     
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    COBSolutions Well-Known Member

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    #7
    My take
    Go for it
    First, get a domain registered with keywords in it and try to place the keywords in the beginning in the exact sequence without any hyphens or numerics
    For that kind of competition an average 40 page website with homepage targeting the keyword prominently and all other pages interlinked to this main keyword, you should get the No.1 spot quite easily say in a month or two or maybe even much earlier
    All the best with the efforts...
     
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  8. GReddy4u

    GReddy4u Active Member

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    Thanks for your motivating response :)

    I believe I will give it my best effort starting tomorrow. Hopefully this is finally the payoff I've been waiting for
     
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  9. w3bmaster

    w3bmaster Notable Member

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    #9
    87 milions results are no easy job
    Your a seo yes it can be done
    Your seo skillsare low stay away ..
     
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  10. GReddy4u

    GReddy4u Active Member

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    #10
    Don't assume other's seo skills as you don't know.

    If the 87 million results do not contain the keyword in exact form, wouldn't a site with the exact keyword in the url, title, many pages throughout the site...wouldn't it be #1 for the search term whether the person types it with or without quotes?
     
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  11. zexy

    zexy Guest

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    #11
    87 million results could be a tough job to do in some cases but not always. It depends on the keyword.
    Amount of results for "keyword" in google = "1 - 10 of about 7,000" - makes me think it's possible to rank in top 10 for that keyword :)
     
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  12. GReddy4u

    GReddy4u Active Member

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    #12

    What I'm trying to understand is this, if this keyword is getting 250k searches per month and none of the sites on the 87 million actually include the exact keyword, would it really be that hard to pass them?

    I understand it would be hard to pass 87 million if the top 50 pages of search results included the exact search term many times, but in this case they only include the words in seperate places throughout the website, but not the keyword that is being searched for 250k times a month.

    Sorry if this is confusing, I'm trying to explain it the best I can
     
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  13. zexy

    zexy Guest

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    It won't be hard. It should be quite easy actually ;)

    Are they in the same niche or totally irrelevant?
     
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  14. GReddy4u

    GReddy4u Active Member

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    To get a better idea, the keyword itself isn't exactly a normal keyword such as "video game info" it actually seems to be either an accidental search or possibly not. Whatever the case, whoever is typing the keyword in, the 87 million results have no relationship the the actual keyword, but they are a similar niche.

    This is a prime example:

    Call of television = Results 1 - 10 of about 127,000,000
    "Call of television" = Results 1 - 10 of about 2,010

    Now, lets say call of television was searched 250k times per month.

    Would creating a website with tons of unique content, including the words call of television several times, also in the url, title, give it a good chance of being ranked #1 out of 127 million?

    Since the 127 million results do not have the keyword exactly laid out in their site at all. But the 127 million results are somewhat related to television, but not all all related to (call of television).... wouldn't a site having the keyword numerous times + optimized = a top spot in the 127 million?
     
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  15. zexy

    zexy Guest

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    The way you describe it ... it looks very easy to rank in top 3 after 1-2 months. Hopefully the sites are not PR5-6+ and wikipedia like.
    Since the traffic for that keyword is very nice, you should give it a try and see how it goes.
    Sometimes even a decent domain with unique content and a few backlinks will get you on top positions. It's called luck :)
     
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  16. GReddy4u

    GReddy4u Active Member

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    That's the thing, in the 87 million results for the keyword when you don't put quotes around it, some of the sites are pr5-6+ sites, but none of them have the actual keyword.

    With the actual keyword in the url, lots of content, backlinks, etc...would their be much challenge at all in surpassing the pr 5-6 sites, I'm thinking no... :D
     
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  17. Canonical

    Canonical Well-Known Member

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    Without knowing the keyword phrase, it is impossible to say 1) how hard it would be to get to page 1 or 2) if it is actually worth the effort to be on page 1. Just because people search does not mean they are going to convert because you suddenly start showing up there.

    For example, I heard from a reliable source that kayak recently got to page 1 for "travel deals" (I think they are like #5 now) but that they get NO traffic from the search phrase even though there are lots of searches performed on that phrase monthly... So they spent a bunch of time and money to get to page 1 for that phrase (about 93,100,000 results) only to find out that being there was worthless.

    I would venture to say that certain types of keyword phrases will not convert even if you're in 2nd or 3rd place. For example, I'd bet that 99.9% of the people searching for "expedia flights" are going to click ONLY on the expedia links. They are rarely, if ever going to click on some link for a URL like www.joemamasblog.com/expedia just because it happens to show up on the page. Very targeted searches even though frequent may yield very few clicks.
     
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  18. GReddy4u

    GReddy4u Active Member

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    Thanks for the response and clearing up a few things. I understand what you're saying about how their is risk for the searches not to convert to actual traffic.

    But consider if someone searches "call of pizza" 250k per month
    and you own callofpizza.com and include all sorts of information on pizza, that keyword specifically a decent amount, as well as even added coupons, delivery numbers, etc etc... It sounds like if you were #1 it would be guaranteed traffic
     
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    GReddy4u, do NOT reveal the keyword here! You will get nothing but more competition.
    Go for it, domains and hosting are cheap. Create a site, publish some unique content and build backlinks with the exact keyword as anchor text. If you think about it... the work is not that much after all. And after 1-2 months you will know how difficult it is to rank for that keyword. The exact keyword in the domain name will help a lot in this case! Good luck!
     
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  20. Canonical

    Canonical Well-Known Member

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    LOL I'm not suggesting he reveal the keyword phrase. Only suggesting any advice he gets on such a vague question is practically worthless.

    Just give it a shot and see what happens.
     
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