Description: Anything your heart desires can be posted here. I'll probably still get an infraction for making this post. When it comes to outsourcing and looking for the cheapest possible deal. Do you feel as though, you're just helping someone get work and therefore feeding their family, that you're just trying to stay ahead of the competition, or that all is fair for the mighty dollar. I find its basically impossible to compete for jobs on DP because everybody is looking for the lowest possible price. Now, people who are offering these low prices sometimes are just scam artists and people with absolutely no skill, others are completely legitimate. We also have some forum members who will appear in the Adsense threads talking about making loads of money, then go hire someone to do their PSD for 5 dollars. Don't you think this is crossing the line morally, or is that ok? I've tried to convince myself that "outsourcing" some of my work is morally righteous, but I can't do it. When someone does a job for me, I think, that I should pay them according to the amount of money that I can afford and think the project is worth. I want to know if you have a different take on it. I'd also like to see if I can get everyone to take a stand against all of the threads that are being made, claiming that the job that you're about to do is easy, simple, it should take 5 minutes, because that insults my intelligence every time that I read it. If the job is so simple, please do it for yourself. I realize that this type of thread has been discussed before, I tried to bring a couple different twists and there is always new perspectives and outlooks. Debate, enjoy.
You shall check whether the member from. If you are from UK, $5 not even enough for you to buy a meal but $5 can buy 10 meal in certain country. By the way, i agree that some of the member dont provide quality work, that's very hard to get first class quality with low price.
Yes. I agree, I said that. I'm saying that 5 dollars is NOTHING for people from the US, for example, and we are only paying that much? Do you find that morally wrong or not? Why not give them what the project is worth for you, not whats its worth for them, or am I wrong. I'm surely not postulating that the people from India - don't deserve to be able to compete - don't get me wrong. I just can't convince myself to go hire one of them for 10 dollars a day to help my business thrive - when I redeem 10 dollars of bottles a week. But its so hard to get work, when you're attempting to get paid a normal salary - for my country, that the way to compete seems to be by taking the cheap way out. These are the interesting dynamics that I think make this an interesting argument and one that crosses my mind all the time.
What? You feel guilty hiring someone for a fair wage? I remember eating out in Laos for ~$1 per meal, it's not as if you're exploiting whoever's working for you. The thing that gets to me a little bit is that (not so much on this site but on others) webmasters are desperate to save money in the short term by hiring the cheapest possible writers and coders, regardless of quality. That way, the $1 per 500 words guys get in and poison the well for other writers who offer really high quality work but can't market themselves as well due to the higher rates. I'm trying to set myself up now to make a decent living from articles, and it's hard to compete when you want to charge quite a lot higher than the market rate for your services. That's one of the weird (and quite cool sometimes) things that globalization's brought on us: skilled workers have to compete on currencies other than price alone. As for the exploitation debate, think about it this way: Whenever you provide a job on here at $4 an hour or whatever, you're offering employment to someone who's only other option might be hustling products on a street corner or working in a crowded factory all day. If your time is worth more than whatever you're paying your outsourced staff then you're creating value for both parties.
hate to say it, but if your looking to make a living off of dp and other forums you better be able to offer something that no one else can offer. for example if you can fix flash problems or something of that sort, thats work that needs to be done, mind you i don't know how many people would need it. i understand your frustration though since there's not too much work to be found anywhere, but in all honesty - dp and other forums don't bring in a steady paycheck unless of course, you set yourself a part from the competition
No one should feel guilty when they have contracted with another person for services rendered. The price was agreed by both parties before the work began. Why would anyone pay $1000 for a program coded by a US coder, if they could get the same thing from a coder in another country for $100? That is simply how outsourcing (contracting) works. The quality of the completed project is another matter altogether. It doesn't matter where you go, or what you do, there will always be people who are not as good as they should be, doing work in every field. Very often, they charge just as much for their work as more competent people. Just so you know, I spent 35 years as a building and remodeling contractor. I've had plenty of experiences with what I'm talking about, both in my industry and others, such as attorneys and accountants.
I am offering some psd 2 html/css services too. I hope the buyers understand decent and quality work cost some money.
Well said. If I can find a quality and decent service at a price that is worth it to both me and the person provided it, then I don't have a problem with it.