Christian Murdered for Drinking Tea from a Muslim Cup

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by uploas, Jun 17, 2009.

  1. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #101
    I call bullshit.

    Actually Bin Laden was cheered my many Muslims the day of the attack. Especially in Palestine where they danced in the street at all the dead Americans Bin Laden killed. The Palestinians handed out candy. This went on until they realized they were shooting themselves in the foot with their true emotions. Then they restricted the press and Arafat did his dog and pony show giving blood.

    There are many Muslims who are peaceful people. There are many Muslims who are violent people.

    The reason you hear about many people who commit crimes being Muslims is not just because the fact they were Muslim - but because they actually used Islam to justify their acts. When being Muslim is part of the motive or rationale behind a violent act it is proper to call attention to that.

    People are not pissed at Bin Laden because he is Muslim, they are pissed because he is a murdering dog who justifies his terrorist acts with the Koran and Islam. Only a fool would pretend it has nothing to do with Islam.

    When Islamist commits horrid atrocities in Somali and claim that they are guided by Islamic law - who should we blame? Christians? Jews? Or Islam?

    Where are all the peaceful Muslims posters here on DP condemning the acts done in the name of Islam. They are silent. Instead, we read on thread after thread where "peaceful" Muslims will try to tell me why it is okay to murder a man who decides he does not want to be a Muslim anymore. Reading Muslim posters here on DP has actually made me more convinced that there is a fight for Islams soul and that most of you still don't know which side you are on.
     
    browntwn, Jun 25, 2009 IP
  2. Squishy

    Squishy Banned

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    #102
    Ignorance is never an excuse. Next time, learn about a religion before you do something like this/this happens to you...
     
    Squishy, Jun 25, 2009 IP
  3. abboodeh

    abboodeh Well-Known Member

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    #103
    You miss understood me in many points,i'll try to make it short:

    *why when Fbi catch some Mafia,or any kind of gang they don't mention their religion?(this is what i meant by mentioning Muslim acts)
    if fallowers of Islam do killing, eating pork, drinking wine(even that its forbidden in Islam) this doesn't make islam wrong,the irony many people would come and make fun of Islam and these guys,Islam is a religion, there's no one watching every Muslim and track him/her if they're doing forbidden things.
    I for one, Never drink wine in my whole life(i still don't know its smell),never eaten pork,never slept with a girl,never went jail,never commited anything wrong based on my religion, and im a 27 years old man!
    I assure you there are millions of people like me and surely better than me thousands times,you won't hear about them because the media won't put them under the spot light, the media would focus only in maniacs who kill others, those maniacs are Muslims;)
    now did you get my idea of bad press?

    *regarding DP members, if you read my posts in this thread, you'll notice that many times i wanted to leave this argue,because it's a waste of time,the people posting here are not looking for answers,they only want to keep posting,mocking Islam,even if they brought you Hadith and verses from Quraan and you answered them they'll still argue,so its pointless keep posting,there's a big difference between the way you talk than their way, you don't use harsh words, you don't copy and paste stuff without understanding, simply you're not aggressive in your posts.
    If im sure this water is clean,there's no point arguing with anyone who'd say its dirty,i'd rather argue with someone asking questions about this water not calling it dirty.

    *there's no fight at all, the thing is, islam is very deep religion, it took our prophet 22 years to deliver the message of Islam...
    -did you know that Islam have a well established economy system, taking care of every little transaction to the most complicated transactions in banks?
    -did you know that Islam have a fully law for all kind of crimes, from bad nothing to killing someone,and killing is assorted into types based on each case(murder by deed,kill by mistake...Etc) and many more.
    -did you know that Islam explains clearly the relationship between family members, from respecting the elder one to help the younger one,to explaining the relation between a man and his wife in all aspects in life including respecting her feelings and treat her right even when making love!
    -it even teach us how we should treat animal and plants!!
    So a religion that cares for the smallest detailes is a huge thing.
    People would go to university to study Islamic law, others would go to study Islamic economy, others will go and study Hadith...Etc

    as you can see Islam is a Huge thing, you won't find someone who knows everything in Islam,there are many teenager Muslims here,they can't answer complicated questions like (why Islam kill anyone converts) these questions need people who studied islam to answer.

    So bad i don't know good English resources for answers,but i'll look for an answer and translate it and post it here.
     
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  4. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #104
    No he killed him because he was a non-muslim drinking out of a muslim only cup. Was the murderer an idiot? yes he was. Was that the reason he committed murder? no it wasn't.

    The mafia don't commit crime in the name of their religion. The religion, in that case, is purely incidental. It's NOT incidental in cases where non muslims are killed specifically for drinking out of a cup designated muslim only.

    I think you are pretending to not understand this distinction. I find it hard to believe that someone is able to operate a computer yet fail to grasp such a simple point.
     
    stOx, Jun 26, 2009 IP
  5. KainKatarn

    KainKatarn Peon

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    #105
    But you cant provide me the source of the hadith..which you citing.
    It can be a slander..or misunderstanding.
    Please understand my post :) I can tell you are good in english.
    You banned?
     
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  6. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #106
    That's pretty much it!

    No, he's just trying to deceive us non-believers into believing that the religion of "peace" is truly peaceful when reality suggests otherwise.
     
    Mia, Jun 26, 2009 IP
  7. new

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    #107
    While you guys continue with your discussion
    Please again! have a look at the source of this story
    http://www.persecution.org/suffering/ICCnews/newsdetail.php?newscode=10268&title=christian-murdered-for-drinking-tea-from-a-muslim-cup

    source is not any newspaper, media outlet .. it is just a propaganda site
     
    new, Jun 26, 2009 IP
  8. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #108
    This is the example of someone incapable of condemning a heinous murder - simply because it involves a Muslim.

    new goes out of his way to say nothing about the alleged crime, but instead tries to deflect and ignore that there is a story posted about a man who allegedly killed another man simply for not being Muslim.

    Is it so hard to simply say, "if true, this is a contemptible act"?

    Why is that so hard new? Why, even when faced with examples of Muslims who commit horrid atrocities are you still in a mind set to defend them at all costs?

    It is this behavior that makes me question whether Islam itself condemns these types of acts or not? Nobody knows if this story is true or not. That should not stop any of us from condemning the actions that have been alleged.
     
    browntwn, Jun 26, 2009 IP
  9. Polite teen

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    #109
    And some atheist were believing the stroy to be true

    But when they are asked

    they .......
    (you can study their behavior through this thread).
     
    Polite teen, Jun 27, 2009 IP