http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir-Hossein_Mousavi From everything I have read so far on this man he seems to be a very educated man. 1. President of the Iranian academy of arts 2.Masters degree in architecture 3. bachelors degree 4. married to a former university chancellor 5.Is in favor of private tv station ownership instead of the current state owned tv stations. 6.pioneered a bond-based economy 7.Former president of the Iranian Academy of Arts 8.Wants to transfer the control of the law-enforcement forces to the President (so that they represent the people, since the people directly elect the President through popular vote) from the Supreme Leader. 9.wants the creation of a free environment for the flow of information and corrections to the national budget. 10.Mousavi condemned the killing of Jews in the Holocaust, a much different stance than that of Ahmadinejad Wow, the more I read of this guy the more I like him. No wonder why the Iranian student movement and many educated Iranians are behind this guy. You can just smell the enthusiasm and the love that alot of iranians have for this guy. It just brings goosebumps. This guy sounds like a very moderate dude. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cGmf_94xWw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwMfGPk5LLU&feature=related
Mousavi is the current hope of the people of Iran to release themselves from the burden of the fundamental regime. This regime is responsible to the fact that one of the world's smartest nations with the 2nd greatest natural resources are living is poverty, with 18% inflation and 25% unemployment, women are worth absolutely nothing, and having a president who is a complete ignorant. This regime is also sponsoring all of the terror activity against my country, as well as declaring that it should be destroyed, and working to achieve the means to do that. The Iranian people deserve so much better. I am very thrilled these days following the news from Iran and I hope the good guys will win and overthrow the dictatorship of people who wear dresses and see themselves as speaking the words of god. Mousavi won the so called "elections" which were faked.
There are plenty of Ahmadinejaad followers, and who told you that majority of people like more Mousavi? Oppositions are everywhere, even in UK When you switch on CNN or BBC you can see the all day rally about Iran's opposition, like its 3rd world war started. Over hyped out. Maybe they are making a new platform in people's minds in US & Europe to invade Iran? Who knows, maybe.
1) Ahmadinejaad was very stressed before the elections. not typical of somebody who knows that he is going to get 65% of the votes. Thats was before he planned and executed the scam. 2) It is not only "me", it is also millions of Iranians. Those people who risk their lives in the streets of Teheran know that they were cheated. If you thought that in Russia it is dangerous to demonstrate or write against Putin, then you can imagine how dangerous it would be in Iran.
NFS, when the syrian occupation left lebanon hezbolla held a rally for them that numbered over a million. Later on it was found out that these protesters came by the load in buses from syria. The iranian student movement is huge in iran and with over 60% of Iranians being under 25 that tells me the pro government rally was staged just like the elections. I have known many Iranian students in my life. The majority are very very intelligent, reasonable and moderate people. Plus you know I have been crital of our government destroying Irans chance at democracy with the coup against mossadegh. This Mousavi doesnt even resemble the puppet shah in the least. Mousavi isnt a puppet of our government. I really hope the election is overturned and mousavi has the chance to show his potential. I have never seen the young iranians love someone so much since mossadegh. If the government tries to assasinate him iran will go nuts. Actually NFS, the current regime is giving america more of an excuse to invade. If anything, the election of mousavi would more prevent an invasion because there would be no excuse to invade.
Your right Imad, he did play a very important roll in that revolution against the puppet shah. Not everyone that revolted against the puppet shah was an extremist mullah. This guy is very pro iranian and progressive , plus he has a moderated view of islam would be very good for his country. As far as the rabbis visiting him you know as well as me that they are the ones from that off shoot sect of judaism that dont believe the holocaust happened on the scale that almost everyone believes it did, they dont represent the majority of rabbis. And yes, Mousavi isnt a puppet or idiot that thinks America is his great friend and that isnt the point of why the iranian people are revolting against him. They are revolting for many reasons. All of the iranian student friends that I had before told me that just because the government is strict on them, it doesnt mean that they are following this strictness. Everyone has seen the underground social parties and get togethers. The true Iranian people are really fun loving people who work and study hard yet know that its ok to have fun.
from the little I know about the situation there right now, there are riots because people think that the election results are fake, and they wanted re-elections, and not because Iranian people can't have fun, assuming that the elections were fake what is the point to re-elect? wouldn't they fake it again? the Government suggested to pick 10% of voting boxes RANDOMLY and re-check them while there are representatives from all candidates, there are also supporters for the current president, whom following the recommendations of the Government in not going to streets against Mousaui supporters, what I hope, is they find a peaceful way where both parties can trust each other, and have respect to the voting process and make it the separation between both, and respect the results even if some did not like it, re-checking these boxes, or even re-electing in some areas will decide if there have been faking or not, and not the rumors or calls for violence and rioting, if re-elections been done in 10% with representatives from all parties, and it showed that the results were different than now, then it would make sense to call the elections fake then, and call for a complete re-elections.
imad very nice words. The Iranian people is not really interested in another so called "elections". It is not a democratic system. It is a dictatorship of lunatics who think that they speak the word of the prophets and angels. The slogan of the demonstrators is : "stop the dictatorship". What they want to do is to overthrow the ayatollahs, and make the "islamic republic of Iran", just "the republic of Iran". As it was, and as it should be. The Iranians are eager consumers of western music and culture, but indoors. Now they want to be allowed to live their lives as they want, to put the dictators in jail, and to stabilize their sinking economy with 18% inflation and almost 50% illiteracy rate. I know that you are for the men in ridiculous middle age dresses and beards, but most of the people on DP are for the men in jeans who are willing to risk their lives for the purpose: being free, allowing their children to be able to read and write, and listen to the beatles without the fear of the secret police. No your kind of thing eh? I am thrilled to follow the news from Iran. Could it be that the no. 1 sponsor of terror against Israel will soon be out-of-business?
I can't speak on behalf of the Iranian people, and I can't know what they want just from a sign raised by a protestor, but I believe in the Iranian people and their ability to put in power whom they want, and follow the system that they want, as they did before, and not follow what others wish them to be, The West is so eager to make them just pure consumers for whatever good or bad the West produces, the last word will be for them.
You can know what they want if you try to think. Problem is, you don't really want to know. I will help you: The people who sacrificed their lives already did it not for a different puppet under the "ayatollah", but for a real freedom. I don't see any other reason worth risking one's life for. Mousavi said that the power should be taken from the "ayatollah", including the control over the military and security forces, and put in the hands of the president, which will be elected in real democratic elections. For the first time in the history of the "Islamic republic of Iran", he defied a direct order from the "ayatollah" who ordered him to stay home, and went out with his followers - the young and the educated and the women - looking for a better future. The Iranian regime is abusing the Iranian people for many years now, and the people, especially the women and the young, just want it to stop. freedom !
Imad stop disgracing yourself by the quotes from the neturei karte website and by your questioning of the holocaust. After all, you do want people to take the things you say seriously or you prefer being the joke of DP like gauarejhaerk or like your hero achmedinjad, a non-welcome personality in most of the western countries, especially the countries who did the holocaust? (italy, austria, germany) It takes a terrible lack of knowledge in judaism, zionism and WWII history, to post what you posted in your previous post.
thanks for the help, you see the problem in "the men in ridiculous middle age dresses and beards" this naive look into the situation right now makes you need that help more than I do, as some of those men are right now in the opposite too, including Mohammad Khatami the ex-president, so I do not think it's as you said, the problem is there are tries to dictate Iranian people by many parties, and what I believe which I will repeat again, all these tries to make the Iranian people else than what they want to be will fail, and at the end, they will have their last word as they did before when the West tried to dictate the Shah on them.
Khatami was taking part in the theather. Mousavi is wearing jeans. He is modern. He is progress. He could be the hope for the iranians. Again with that "The west is trying to dictate" crap of yours? aren't you tired of your imagination? Imad you tend to believe in the truthfulness of things that you really want them to be true. This mechanism must be a very strong mechanism mainly with people who believe in god. Like yourself? Please explain in details how the west is dictating. How it is intervening with what is happening happening in Iran. To the finest detail. Tell us of your great knowledge about the scam of the west to take control of Iran.
is this how you decide if a person can be a hope for the Iranian or not? are you saying the West did not try to dictate the Shah on Iranian people?
The west was supporting the Shah, merely because it was convenient. It is just natural. It was not "dictating". I don't remeber U.S. troops fighting against the islamic "revolutionaires". I am still waiting for the details: how is the west intervening now in practice with what is happening in iran (weapons? TV stations? news papers? CIA agents in the streets?) or you can take these stupid words back
I'm not sure why everyone assumes the new boss would be any better than the old boss. Most /US diplomats I have seen talk on the matter, including Obama himself, seem to think there would be little change to Iran's nuclear ambitions with this new guy. It is also noteworthy that this election was a sham in the first place. Any real candidate for change was culled from the herd by the Mullahs long before the election even took place. That means Mousavi was either lying when he proclaimed loyalties to the current regime, lying now, or both. I put all that together, and consider what an A**hole Ahmadinijad is, and figure there is a good chance claims Mousavi "Won" the election are complete BS. I'm not saying thats a bad thing, after all cheating in a game that was rigged in the first place can hardly be called cheating. Like Israel and Palestine, I say let em fight it out and deal with the winner.
This is true unless a real change is coming. And the next boss will not be a person, but the Iranian people having a real democracy. To my best analysis, this is what the people on the streets are struggling for now. They are not fighting for mousavi, they are fighting to overthrow the mullahs.
seriously, are you saying these questions are wrong or baseless? or did not happen? so this is why you are trying to ridicule them? if so, you will be taken seriously, and I will be taken non-seriously, if you proved they are wrong, and not by telling me "stop disgracing yourself".