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NoFollow Is Now Useless! [Great Video]

Discussion in 'Google' started by zac439, Jun 20, 2009.

  1. #1
    Apparently Google has changed the way the PR flows. PR sculpting has been less effective as a result. This movie does a great job, but it's 20 minutes long so get some refreshments:
    http://vimeo.com/5238869

    Theoretically you could use an iFrame to make a new page for links, but I think that is taking it too far. Google claims the change happened a year ago, but I doubt that since no one is seeing PR drops until now.

    I'm still using nofollow tags, because Google isn't the only one that used them. In the future things may change as well.

    Bye, PR sculpting :p
     
    zac439, Jun 20, 2009 IP
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  2. NetMidWest

    NetMidWest Peon

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    #2
    Do I understand the issue correctly?
    Google basically set the nofollow effect on PageRank back to 2005 (before the attribute was accepted)?
    Any signs that other methods are being affected?
     
    NetMidWest, Jun 20, 2009 IP
  3. wibblet

    wibblet Banned

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    #3
    time to switch to the good ol iframe
     
    wibblet, Jun 20, 2009 IP
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    idolism Well-Known Member

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    #4
    iframe...not
     
    idolism, Jun 20, 2009 IP
  5. OnInternetBusinessGuide

    OnInternetBusinessGuide Well-Known Member

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    #5
    I do not have 20 minutes to watch it. Does anyone know an official URL with text about this? I would like to read it from a Google official source.
     
    OnInternetBusinessGuide, Jun 21, 2009 IP
  6. lightlysalted

    lightlysalted Active Member

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    #6
    i'm not a fan of iframes myself but it is annoying if google has only inacted these changes now
     
    lightlysalted, Jun 21, 2009 IP
  7. zac439

    zac439 Notable Member

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    #7
    When in doubt, look at Matt Cutt's blog:
    http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/pagerank-sculpting/
    :)
     
    zac439, Jun 21, 2009 IP
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    xc06 Notable Member

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    #8
    so blog comments are more useful than before now? this is to encourage spamming I am afraid.
     
    xc06, Jun 21, 2009 IP
  9. zac439

    zac439 Notable Member

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    #9
    xc06 - Unfortunately you are correct.

    At the same time, the more links on a given page the less effect that is given to each link. A page that is spammed into oblivion will not give spammers much return on their time spent.

    I've always kept links out of my comments, even for the name field. Just good practice I've felt.
     
    zac439, Jun 21, 2009 IP
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    newsniche Peon

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    #10
    Just read Matts post, so nofollow does not pass pagerank.

    I feel like I have just taken a maths lesson:( too much learning detract from creating content.
     
    newsniche, Jun 21, 2009 IP
  11. zac439

    zac439 Notable Member

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    zac439, Jun 21, 2009 IP
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    jacobkell Well-Known Member

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    #12
    Not realy,nofolow still work,but problem is you cant use it anymore to give link juice to links which you want to give.For example let say you have 10 links on 5 sites.You put 5 links on nofollow,so the other 5 links get better value.But now with this new rules this doesnt work anymore.Even nofollow links wont get any juice,links without it wont get same value as they before,they will get value like there is no nofollow tag applied anywhere.This could be very problematic for bloggers,who uses massively nofollow tag on ads and similar links.
    Only solution to resolve this is to use either frame or flash/java generated links.
     
    jacobkell, Jun 21, 2009 IP
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    angilina Notable Member

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    #13
    I think that nofollow is and will be of very much use. The basic use of this tag is to not give PR juice to a site: or to add this tag to links that you do not trust: or to use this tag to fight spam.

    PR sculpting is a different thing.
     
    angilina, Jun 21, 2009 IP
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    yenerich Active Member

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    #14
    One day will be when Google punish people that uses nofollow too much... or maybe that day is today ;)
     
    yenerich, Jun 21, 2009 IP
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    #15
    that is a great video, but way too long :)
     
    stevo123, Jun 21, 2009 IP
  16. DoDo Me

    DoDo Me Peon

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    #16
    simple fact:

    1: nofollow does work and not pass PR juice
    2: every link gets same PR juice, but only follow link pass it to linked site.

    it means: you get a very little PR juice on a mass nofollow link page, even when your link is the only follow one.

    I think, it's NOT common sense. :(
     
    DoDo Me, Jun 21, 2009 IP
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    borber Well-Known Member

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    #17
    Zac, nofollow make sense not for PR/notPR only.
    PR sculpting died far ago for everybody who first of all worry SERP about.
     
    borber, Jun 21, 2009 IP
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