SEO Wars - Harming Competitor's Sites

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Lumber Joe, Jun 17, 2009.

  1. #1
    I am running several blogs for income and I was thinking about what if my competitor sees that I am advancing, my SERP improves and he/she starts to do things that may harm my SERP, PR and incomes. Such as submitting my site to link farms, porn site directories, clicking my adsense ads and do other nasty things like that?

    Have you ever faced that problem? What do you think?
     
    Lumber Joe, Jun 17, 2009 IP
  2. evolveforever

    evolveforever Peon

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    it is possible.But if your competitor involves in clicking adsense ads crazily then you can report to adsense team.They will support you.So that is not a problem.But if he is linking with link farms then that could be a problem.
     
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  3. Lumber Joe

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    What if he clicks 2-3 times a day but regularly? You will never find that out, but Google can and they will ban you, when you request a payment.
     
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    I think that if crazy clicking the ads on a competitor's site would lead to its ban then it would be too easy to fight all your competitors. I hope Google knows a way to filter out such attacks.
     
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  5. Lumber Joe

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    What about 2-3 clicks a day?
     
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    #6
    it's got to be pretty extreme abuse before google will ban you. They track by ip, cookie, etc, so are actually pretty good at filtering out the fake clicks.
     
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  7. evolveforever

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    google has numerous ways to track those crazy people.so dont worry.They cannot escapethe BIG G.
     
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  8. wh0

    wh0 Banned

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    #8
    Contact his web hosting ISP, report his site for distributing exploits and say you've reported his site to IC3 (ic3.gov, don't actually do it). They would rather have an angry customer than a shut down/blacklisted server.

    Also, get his IP, and report him to his ISP for fraud and Denial of Service attacks. The ISP will likely terminate his connection until resolved.

    After this, email him and tell him not to mess with your websites. :)
     
    wh0, Jun 17, 2009 IP
  9. Earnest01

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    Inbound links cannot harm your site since you have no control over who links to you and how they do it.
     
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  10. edgray

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    Unfortunately this isn't true. Google introduced penalties last year regarding inbound links. These can be triggered by other people. Google do say it is nearly impossible.

    http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/014057.html

    But there are people who think it's becoming an increasingly popular technique:

    http://www.slightlyshadyseo.com/index.php/why-is-negative-seo-becoming-more-common/
     
    edgray, Jun 17, 2009 IP
  11. melbel

    melbel Notable Member

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    #11
    Let Google know what you think is happening. It is likely that he is using his own IP to click your ads -- the same IP he logs onto his own Google accounts with so Google may be able to catch the guy.
     
    melbel, Jun 17, 2009 IP
  12. pubdomainshost.com

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    I guess question is not just about clicking on ads, but on linking as well. You have no control on who links to your sites, but site owner shouldn't be penalized for this... Not much help from Google archives on this but it is a threat and one needs to be aware about competition moves !
     
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    w3bmaster Notable Member

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    #13
    It's like impossible to harm a competitor site ...
    Maybe hack it but getting him down in SERPs is like impossible ..
     
    w3bmaster, Jun 17, 2009 IP
  14. Sadie

    Sadie Active Member

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    Do actually get people that evil?
     
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    oh god this now makes me a little paranoid about what happens when i get to the top, i have heard about instances where people pay a lot of money to get someone knocked out of their positions
     
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  16. Lumber Joe

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    You are wrong it does harm. I know cases when a site was penalized just for choosing wrong link partner. Unfortunately it's true.
     
    Lumber Joe, Jun 17, 2009 IP
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    praetserge Notable Member

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    #17
    it says you cannot control who links to you but you CAN control who you link to, thus if you do link exchange you know what you're doing and if you're stamming you're stamming.
     
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    #18

    It will not matter at all, unless all of your links come from those sites. No external factor can ruin your website.
     
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  19. Canonical

    Canonical Well-Known Member

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    Generally speaking, inbound links can almost never hurt your rankings or lead to penalties/bans. Google is not made up of a bunch of idiots. They generally ignore inbound links when it comes to penalties because they know that your competitors could simply farm links from bad sites pointing back to your site, report you, and BAM! You're penalized. Google has no way to know whether you farmed them or whether a competitor did trying to bowl you out of the rankings. So they typically chalk it up to a competitor trying to get you in trouble.

    The one very rare exception to inbound links resulting in a penalty is a paid link... but even then they almost NEVER hand out a penalty to the target of an inbound paid link for the same reason mentioned above - they don't know if you bought it or one of your competitors bought it trying to get you in trouble. About the ONLY way you would actually get penalized for an inbound paid link is if you were logged into your Google Webmaster Tools account where you are a verified webmaster for the site that is the target of the paid link and bragged on, for example, the Google Webmaster Help Forums about having bought links from some other site.

    Typically when Google detects paid links, they penalize the seller and devalue the outbound links from the seller. This means your URL where the paid link is pointing does NOT get penalized. It's penalized indirectly because you (or your competitor) keep paying for the link yet you are receiving no benefit from it because it's not being counted due to coming from a penalized URL.

    Who YOUR site links to, however, CAN easily get you penalized if you are linking to bad neighborhood sites.
     
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  20. Shilpa Mehta

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    Yeah absolutely correct........People pay to knock down their competitor's sites instead of putting efforts to bring their site up.
     
    Shilpa Mehta, Jun 18, 2009 IP