[WTB] It's hard to buy a real website

I've been browsing this forum for at least one year and I have to say that it's very hard to find a real website with real revenue. Most of the websites sold here with the "revenues" are: 1) fake revenues through photoshop (this is easy to do and takes less time but also easy for buyers to find out); 2) fake revenues through some tricks like buying traffic, buying clicks... (this takes time to do and requires some knowledge but also harder for buyers to figure out)

How do I recognize those fake revenues ? Simply ask myself, why would I sell a something that doesn't require work and does yield money ? If this is that simple then if I need more money (people will tell you they need money for bigger project) then I just do the same type of website over and over and I will get that money. What big project can justify something that already yields real money (if it is true) without any work ?

In real life, even selling drugs (thus making tons of money) requires work. Prostitution requires work. Stealing and cheating on the net also require work.
What activity that does not require work but can give you monthly payment ?

Now, I am not saying that all the sellers here are not honest. Some are. The majority of buyers would like to buy something cheap, put no work into that and earn money every month. You get what you pay for baby.

I think honestly, a decent website that has regular revenues for at least 6 months should be sold at least 10x times its monthly revenues. For a website with 1 year of revenues (that can be verified) should be sold at least 36x its month revenues. Yes this is not a typo, 36x times = 3 years of revenues. This is what people used to pay in real life.

Lastly, if there is anyone who wants to sell a real website with real revenues, let me know. We pay real value

Sincerely,
Agux

 

I agree with you that most of sites sold here are fake. You wouldn't find site making 500$ with SE traffic sold for less than 5k$. SO its btetter to buy a site with unique content and get it ranked high by purchasing seo service.
Btw if you are interested in site with potential then look at this auction -- http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1369335

 

I've been saying the same thing all along. It makes no sense at all to sell a site that is really making money and requires no work to run. Why would you sell something that continues to make money by just sitting there doing nothing? Everything requires effort, but people still look for the lazy way out!

Of course, that's also why they fail to make money online

 

Shoot, I agree too, but sometimes it's not that easy to replicate a revenue generating website. Trust me, I have tried. And I have a site with over 3 years of steady MONTHLY income - without being anywhere near the top 10 on google, and without paying a dime for advertising. Yet I have been trying to sell it for the right offer for the past year or so but have to make sure I get the right amount for it.

 

When was the last time you saw a post where someone in this forum was willing to pay 20x revenue for a legitimate website?

I'm not saying fakes have not taken center stage when it comes to websites for sale, but buyers also come out short sometimes when it comes to fair play.

 

Well if you think about it, DP has been know for it's stingy buyers. People on here want to buy something legit for dirt cheap, but you can't eat your cake and still have it

 

Agree with all of you. Some buyers here are cheap too as I mentioned in my post

 

Maybe you should try SitePoint.

 

sitepoint is a bit more pro but also full of craps

 

Although I agree with all of you, and when I've sold a site that's making decent revenue with no PPC/promotion it's only because of 1 or two things:

1.) I need the money. Yep! I am not rich and sometimes just need a cash injection.
2.) I truly like to build sites. I like to build them up until they are starting to make money, and then unfortunately, I get bored with them, so I get rid of them, which inturn gives me some extra coin to start another...

Number 2 isn't very wise, I know, but I really like the challenge of trying to build something that makes some money and the key part is, makes money with no PPC or something like that. All SEO!

Anyways, just trying to give another point of view. Have a great day!

 

Check out my thread http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1371713

 

Wowsers, sounds like someone has been ripped off one toooooo many times--

my 2pence would consist of, some common sense... if adsense revenue is some what amazing, then yes something is a miss, re purposing domains is however a real money spinner, think outside the box on your site purchases, why do you want it, do you know anything about that sector, do you have an interest in it? are you feeling lucky?

well are you punk? are you?

point by point id have to agree, be wary, stop, look and listen, but dont be affraid to take a punt, big profit follows big risk, what are you risking? some money, well that grows on trees, its the easiest thing on the planet to get your hands on! all you have to do is work for it! so black hats... you think these scams will make you real money? you have the brains to be making legit cash by the bucket, apply your skill more affectivly and network with the idots like me who pump money through digital point! Viva la revolution DIGITAL POINT! I thank you!!!!

Ps/ digital point users vs. site point users active online when you on.... no comparison! Maybe the hidden gems are there... im off...

PPS/ is this the best place for your post? lolzzzzzzzzz

Peace out

DCx

 

Really you have to look out for sites that you think you can do something with, regardless of what the seller says it makes or their reasons for selling.

You can also save yourself some time by ignoring threads with certain things in the title: Page Rank 2,3,4,etc - Potential - Auto - Automatic - 100% (anything) - 1500 Indexed Pages.. and so on.

For example thread titles like this one currently on the first page are an instant turn off for me: 220+$ Revenue / 45,000 + Uniques /1,00,000 + PageViews / Good Alexa / Site For Sale
- it has everything a greedy Newbie might fall for, like a demented magpie is attracted to sparkly things, but offers nothing of real value to a genuinely smart buyer who wants to know what the hell the website is all about. This title is far more interesting to me: Jokes Blog - Taking Offers, though I'm not interested in buying a joke blog, and it probably has a vastly oversaturated jokes database on it (though it might not?), the title says what it is and makes no outrageous claims. You know what you're going to find if you look in the thread so you can make part of a decision before you even click.

Also ignore sites with pointless URLs, like a web directory called georgesmith.com or electricalengineeringltd.com, or a Business Marketing blog called vedlo.com, stuff where it's obviously a dropped domain name and/or makes no sense whatsoever in the niche it's being used for... unless of course you can think of a better use for it than the dimwhit who put PHPLD on it.

The best ones (on DP this is), quite rare, are those where the owner obviously intended to make an honest website for the sake of making it, like someone who buys a house to renovate it and live in it, but realizes they just don't have the motivation to bother with it after six months to a year or so.

 

This will help make the right decisions

The 15 Real Tips http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1288620

 

I agree alot can be fake. However, websiteoutlook.com can give you good details about a website. It is not 100% correct like it says my site greenmowers.org gets $0.40 from clicks when it gets more. However, it is close to my visitors a day. Oh and with adsense it counts a visit if the owner goes to the site.

 

oh and alot of pr is temparary

 

theres that much crap for sale now, it almost looks as if the "Buy, Sell or Trade > Sites" forum is spammed out
domains forum is pretty cool. but this get rich shit in "Buy, Sell or Trade" is pushing good stuff for sale out the page lol. but still im happy i have bought some pretty cheap vbulletins and vbseo which i mostly need.

yeah i got had with that lol, it showed the site making money for 3 months then i buy it, do the same thing for the site if not more and not make a cent i wont mention that site, but i had turned it around to try and make money another way. hope all goes well.
p.s digitalpoint.com forums needs a make over lol, these pm's i read come back as unread, even after i read and reply, then that silly pm box keeps appearing clicking around the forum grrr.

 

I'm selling my site that is UploadGround.Com.

First, i didn't do any paid promotion at all.
Second, the revenue is established for 7 months now.

I will give acess to Google Analitycs for real interested buyers.

Please have full look at SitePoint
http://marketplace.sitepoint.com/auctions/67818

The reserve price is U$12k. That is 12 X my earnings without counting the private ads sold here in DP

 

yes
and few people sell for pricing less than their revenue... how can we believe such sales pitch

 

i agree..i fell for a adsense site..making $30 a month..i bought,made $2 a month until i built it up..also,that PM everytime you go to another thread is annoying as hell..a DB issue?