Muslim Convert Attacks US Army Recruiting Station in Little Rock, AK

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  1. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #41
    Once again, waterboarding starts to sound quite appealing when faced with the alternative.
     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    #42
    The FBI's Joint Terrorist Task Force had been aware of Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad months ago.

    There are reports that Obama and Justice department ordered FBI to “back off” anti-terror investigations of radical Muslim converts.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #43
    In Germany, Obama speaks of lessons of evil. Yet he strides down the same road as Hitler. See also Weimar Republic

    Obama 'saddened' by attack on recruiters. Yet he seeks to entertain Hamas.

    He gives speeches about mending Muslims and the US. Yes the US never had a problem with Muslims. They had a problem with Islamic Nut Jobs like the one pictured above.

    Obama Christ is all things to all people.
     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    #44
    Abdulhakim Muhammad a.k.a Carlos Bledsoe, traveled to Yemen in September 2007 was arrested for overstaying his visa and living illegally in the Middle Eastern nation. He was deported Jan. 29 to the U.S.

    Abdulhakim Muhammad's lawyer told the AP on Thursday that "hardened" Islamic terrorists inside the prison where Muhammad was held for four months indoctrinated him into their radical beliefs.

    http://www.daytondailynews.com/business/yemen-accused-shooter-not-tortured-in-prison-150119.html
     
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    wwstewart Well-Known Member

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    #45
    Holy crap! He's not black?

    *snicker*

    Obama's policies ARE awful. It's got nothing to do with race, although I like how his supporters turn everything into a "race issue".
     
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    #46
    Did you just compare Obama to Hitler? lmao
     
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    wwstewart Well-Known Member

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    #47
    In regard to economic policies and what not, yes. Pay attention...the US is gonna get really interesting for those that care to look beyond what we are told...
     
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    #48
    The four terrorits charged with plotting to blow up two New York synagogues and shoot down military planes were converted to Islam in prison. Terror experts say US Prisons are a cauldron for Islamic radicalism.

    "Prisons can play a critical role in both triggering and reinforcing the radicalization process," read a landmark 2007 report from the New York Police Department, which warned of prisons as a "radicalizing cauldron."

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,521215,00.html
     
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    #49
    It wouldn't be any different if there wasn't a loosely(yet very much) connected global movement to advance the teachings of radical islam and to attack people/entities who the terrorists feel are the oppressors of Islam(actually their own brand of radical Islam), which puts the US on the top of the target list.

    I do believe the abortion doctor shooter could probably meet the criteria of domestic terrorist if argued well. But the difference is he is not part of a global movement.

    Radical Islamic terrorism is a global movement, because the perpetrators share common goals, use common tactics, and attacks are carried out frequently across the globe. Abortion doctor shootings still have to be considered to be random acts of violence, perhaps terrorism, but still random and without much momentum.
     
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    #50
    Asking him to pay attention is liking ice to freeze.

    Boy, you are quick:rolleyes:
     
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    #51
    Hows the internet from the trailer park? The 56k still running tight? lmao
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #52
    I probably have a larger connection to the internet than everyone here combined.

    So are you the pitcher or catcher when you are Julian are together?
     
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    #53
    Just a general question but... should we waterboard the person who killed Dr. Tiller?

    I mean A) He's a terrorist. and B) He claims that more attacks are coming.

    Don't we need that info to protect American lives?

    Somebody get a hose....
     
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    #54
    For what purpose? Punishment? Waterboarding as I understand it, (and incidentally from what Nancy Pelosi recalled and approved) is an interrogation technique, not punishment.

    The guy who killed Dr. Death was a loon. His ex-wife confirmed this, as have several people. Most normal/sane people (black football players, record producers, B-Movie Actors, etc.,) usually do not run around and kill people. They generally have something wrong with them to begin with.

    Last I checked, loony people were not waterboarded. It serves no useful purpose. Nor does it serve as a deterrent. Waterboarding, as I understand it, has helped keep America safe. Are you now suggesting that waterboarding loons will keep the remaining two purveyors of premature infant death safe?

    I'm not sure I understand your logic here, though I recognize the bait. :rolleyes:
     
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    #55
    Terrorism is terrorism, and it is impelled by any number of sick ideologies.

    An 88-year old asshole storms the Holocaust Museum in Washington, and kills a 6-year veteran of the security service. This white supremacist, anti-semite, and hate-filled sociopath took the life of an innocent, and would have taken more, if he hadn't been taken down;

    The story impelling this thread, an asshole who murders out of anger over U.S. policy in the middle east;

    An anti-abortion murderer, who decided the law isn't his cup of tea, and that he'd best take out "Dr. Death," as Mia puts it, to serve his ends.

    These acts of terror are utterly disparate in their genesis, but alike in their result.

    I think we'd best stop trying to ascribe a singular, causative religion or creed to murdering "types" - unless we'd prefer to ignore both a McVeigh and this thread's suspect (had) a common hatred, but a different reason for that hatred; and address why we're having this crap, and why we've been having this crap, for quite some time.

    Comparative crime statistics are difficult - a common set of definitions on "crimes" in all their varieties has yet to be achieved - but the sad fact is that we in the United States seem to excel at snuffing each other out, esp. when compared to national rates in other western, industrial countries.

    But the pattern of murder is also troubling, to me. I don't have ready any statistics, just a gut feeling that it has only worsened over the last 20 years. Not only do we murder, but we murder in sprees.

    Why?
     
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    #56
    Apparently you don't. Perhaps if you had quoted my entire post instead of trying to take the one sentence out of it's context you would have?

    The purpose of waterboarding him is to get the information he claims to have. He claims to have knowledge of pending attacks. Doesn't he need to be waterboarded to save American lives?

    Just asking if you think that given one terrorist, who has stated he has knowledge of future attacks, should you waterboard? Is that perhaps more clear for you?
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #57
    Sorry you have me confused with NPT... I responded directly to your comments. What I avoided was "taking the bait".

    Nice try though.:D
     
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    #58
    lol if by bait you mean a direct question that we both know has only one logical answer if you blindly follow conservative nonsensical ideology then, guilty :)

    You took the "bait" when you responded at all :) But you did so with confidence thinking that if you could just pluck that one sentence out of it's context maybe no one would notice? I then pointed out that you'd actually taken one sentence out of it's context put it back in it's full context, now all your confidence is gone?

    Calling it "bait" doesn't disqualify it, it just IMO proves your fear of answering the question. Perhaps because you know the answer you want to give but just don't want to give it publicly?
     
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