GooGle PageRank Does it Matter

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by mac2005chris, Jul 24, 2006.

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    I think PR does count to a certain extent and that the principle of Generating links definatly helps in the search engine ranking. (As we all know)

    However my question is how accurate is PR? If I see a website with a PR of 4, I know its not a true up to date reflection as to the sites value, but how far out of date is it 3 months 6 months?
     
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    I don't think it does matter. My sites have dropped from PR5 to PR3 and PR5 to PR0 but I still hold same positions in SERPS.
     
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    #3
    PR is the level of importance Google gives to your site but your rankings never depend on PR, you may have seen in many cases that a high ranking website may be low in PR than another competing website which is below its rankings.

    Akash Kumar
     
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    I don't think Page Rank matters either. My website just went from PR3 to PR0 and in general, I'm ranking higher, and getting more traffic from Google.
     
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    Ya I already said that PR doesn't count as a factor in your rankings however people only want to exchage links with high PR websites only and in many cases I have seen people reject low PR ones.

    Akash Kumar
     
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    The only time that PR Greenline is of value is when you find someone naive enough to think that it makes your site more valuable when it comes for the time to sell. It is 'entertainment' value only:D
     
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    I believe that PR does affect the rankings of a site in the search engines as its the basis of link popularity which everyone agrees moves you up the rankings.

    However my issue is that for along time I believe that the PR display on the tool bar is usless. Its based arround the same equastion being repeated over and over again to get as close the accurate PR as possible. If my PR depends on the PR of the sites that link to me and so on and so on. Then surely to update PR google has to index all the sites in its network, therefore PR can only really be updated every 3-6month ect. What do you think?

    Im sure they must have a way arround this. What do you think?
     
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    Visual PR (on google toolbar) is updated evey 3 months approx. However, real PR in the google database is updated frequently. Therefore, the SERP positioning considers the real PR at that particular moment.

    We will never know the latest PR at any point of time. The visual PR is only a rough guide ;)
     
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    If my pr is dependant on the sites that link to me and there pr is dependent on the sites that link to them ect. How can my real pr be updated frequently unless Google is doing a full index of all the sites it spiders very frequently. Someone help.
     
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    Google does not need to index any site often to get the PR. They have their algorithm to decide when they will pay the next visit to your site (depending on content freshness and PR). The only thing they need to update PR in their database is the cache information which they indexed earlier on.

    In another words, lets say Google updates their PR database tomorrow, they are using the cache information from the sites at that point of time (the cache copy can be from last month etc.).

    Hope its clearer now :rolleyes:
     
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    Thats great, thanks for your help. So PR is completely inaccurate as its based arround cashed pages. These pages are all cached at different times and therefore there is never a true reflection in relation to each other. So my PR doesnt really matter as its no accurate.
     
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    In my completely clueless opinion I think PR is a pile o' crap. I base this on the fact that a new site of mine has just been given PR4 with zero backlinks, compared with a site that is 5 years old with 50 backlinks that's PR3. How did I score a PR4 with no links? Crap I tell you, crap!
     
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    if you're planning to sell links on your site (or even selling your site outright), toolbar pagerank does come into play.

    it doesn't matter whether or not it really means anything. all that matters is that people do place importance to it - just go around the forum circuit and see how many links and sites are sold with pagerank contributing to the price.
     
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    Honestly, I think PR does help rank sites but the green bar PR doesnt mean squat. I cant see google helping us to see why some sites rank highly and others dont. They want us in the dark, because when all said and done we all bend the rules to achieve positions and inreality we don't yet deserve them.
     
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    doesn't matter. trust rank matters.
     
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    #16
    ya PR doesn't give you rankings they just help Google determine how how useful you are.

    Akash Kumar