We know foetuses are capable of feeling, else they would not react to stimuli, which they do. Your brain can move your nose, the foetus can move itself. Your brain, separate from your nose, registers stimuli from your nose, this means your nose is not its own closed system and therefore not sentient. Clearly a nose and a foetus are dissimilar, a foetus has an array of organs, whereas a nose does not.
example please. any body part reacts to stimulate. what makes you think the reaction is not generated from mothers brain? so does the nose. it has skin, bone,and few other parts that i am not familiar with. they have different parts just like nose to heart or hand. each has its own parts. maybe dissimilar but both body parts.
C'mon now. You can't be serious. First, you must have never been pregnant. Second, ask your mother when you kicked in her stomach, whether or not she told you to do so.
I had a post written. Then I realized how best to express myself toward your lack of understanding anything.
Are we referring to Pizza? I've not seen his posts in a while... I'm not even the slightest bit curious what he's saying. His "Engrish" was hard enough to read, let alone digest.
I'm too lazy to hit view post... Oh well. If anyone ever wants to trade ignore lists let me know. I've got a list that makes P/R tolerable.
blah blah blah some emotional mambo jumbo, that is all you have and that is what i said from beginning. not an iota of indisputable claims. not one fact that can not be shown wrong. you have nothing. everything that you base your belief on i proven baseless. that is why your head hurts. the earth is flat for you
So, you believe a fetus is the same as the heart despite their being such a thing as "birth" which doesn't exist for the heart? Wow!
like what? what is your rational reason that fetus is not a body part and a human. I have shown a complete and indisputable difference between fetus and baby. baby breaths air and fetus does not. can you show one such difference between fetus and the rest of mother's body. different part are for different purposes they function differently. fetus is for reproduction and when it is completed it becomes human. i did not say they are the same. a bone is not like skin and skin is not like heart,but they are all part of human's body. fetus is a collection of cells that are produced by the mother's body. they reside inside of her body. it feeds of her body. it is supplied by her body. but it is not part of her body?
I was reading that a fetus can feel pain, and will even try to get away from a needle. They dream a lot, and can even hear what's going on. Their heartbeat starts beating at 3 weeks. Pizzaman, if you're interested, read this article about Life Before Birth.
a tapeworm and a virus function as adult and complete species functioning in their natural environment. fetus is not. but i tell you i do not consider virus, two virus as it is splitting up. only after it is completely split up. what about you. is it two virus or one? the fetus heart functions differently than humans. its lungs functions differently. it is alive. but not human.it becomes human after its first breath. at this time its body makes the final step. it becomes human. before that it is just a part of mothers body. hence body part. if this helps some feel better and more compassionate so be it. but the pure logical fact is that fetus is body part. like heart or lung.
i think it is the mothers choice. if she thinks she wants to or she needs to then its fine by me. actually i do not thinks it is my place to judge her
An infant is A. Unable to survive on its own B. Unable to sustain itself physically C. Came from the mother Can the mother abort it when its 1 month old? One year? Eleven years? Fifty years? Hmm... I'm sure there are a few mothers that would like to abort their basement dwellers.