it certainly is and finishes the scientific questions about abortion. it can make a clear line as to when fetus becomes human. right after birth and with the first breath of air. 100% science based. 100%logical. 100% correct. i am willing to support the mother's right to choose as the only decider on religious basis also. looking forward to another heated exchange.
Are you saying it is impossible for a fetus to become nothing more than a human organ if it could be supported and fed by scientific machinery? Are you saying a fetus can be transplanted like an organ and all it will ever be is an organ of a body? Are you saying a fetus has no consciousness, like a human organ? Or do you believe a human organ has consciousness? Are you saying a woman's decision has no impact on society and that her very existence doesn't depend on the benefits of that society and therefore society has no say in her decision whether she has children or not?
Then don't have sex... how hard is it? If you CAN'T take a chance of being a parent DONT HAVE SEX.....
once the fetus starts breathing it becomes human. how and when is not relevant. but without breathing it is not.without breathing the process of reproduction is not complete. no human is produced. breathing is a must. how important is breathing? life and death important. fetus can be implanted sooner or later.why not? everyone decision has impact on society but there is no need to interfere on decisions regarding ones body. society has no say in her decision to have a baby or not. yes absolutely no say.
So, you say when it breathes it is human. But, to me that says it is more than just an organ of the mother's body. It is a developing life, independent of the organism of the mother. But, if the breath of life is your definition, so be it. I take it you are against hooking up people to breathing tubes or any kind of breathing apparatus because that means they are not human (according to your definition). So, you think prostitution, unlimited drug use, and suicide shouid be legal?
No one, but USE your brain. You have a few choices. DON'T have sex and no worries, because you can't get aids or have kids etc... #2 USE PROTECTION and no offense, if you AREN'T using protection then sooner or late you will get STDS or AIDS. Who am I to say? I DO have the right to say, because MY tax money pays for your damn kid, who you can't take care of or your abortion process at the hospital. It all comes from ALL and MY hard earned money, and it's not my fault your a total idiot, who knows the consequences of sex and still does it. That's like you going into a bank and robbing it. You KNOW the consequences, but you still do it.
You don't understand. Respire means to undergo the exchange of gases necessary to survive, a foetus does experience this. Also, excretion means to rid of any waste. I don't see what you're point is with that post. Are you saying a foetus does not undergo these processes? Because it does. You ignored all the parts of my previous post which clearly shows you are incorrect regarding the view a foetus is not a human.
1-your brain for you and your body. my brain for mine. everyone lives by their choice 2-what i or anyone else does with their body is nobody's business. also we are not talking about using protection or aids. do not change the subject 3-again we are not talking about welfare or who pays for it. i do not want to talk about that here. if that is what you want to talk about make a new topic and i will join in you seem to miss the point that fetus does not do any of the two but mother does it for it. mothers blood provides oxygen and removes co2. just like it does for the nose or any other part of her body. now that i show fetus does not fit in your description you want to change your description. you just do not want to accept science please point out a difference between fetus and any other part of the body other than its shape. i do not see any point you make shows any difference between fetus and any other part. also note that at the first breath a major change in the body of fetus takes place. this major change starts the human form of the baby. before this point body of fetus acts totaly different in regard of these two functionality. if you look at what you say without bias and what i say you will see no other choice but to accept my position. lolz. i am glad that you are looking for salvation. who is going to help you with that?
show one difference between fetus and nose. how is it independent of mothers body? all these apparatus are designed to help the patient breathe. why? because it is absolutely necessary for humans to breathe. so if fetus is a human why doesn't it need to breathe. yes
Pizzaman, regardless of what the mother provides the foetus, if they foetus did not receive and exchange gases to its own tissue, it would die. The mother may provide the source and even mechanism, but the foetus still respires as its cells receive oxygen and expel carbon dioxide nonetheless. The source is completely irrelevant, so in fact you're missing the point. I think prostitution, drug use and suicide (how can it be illegal?) should be legal, just as a side note.
Despite you answering my question with a question - the sign of someone without a real argument, I'll answer yours: Referring back to one of my earlier posts: A foetus experiences or acts out the following basic natural processes: Movement, Respiration, Sensitivity, Growth, Excretion, Nutrition. You walked straight into that one mate.
nose first. lolz i can move my nose by your definition my nose does respiration through my body my nose has grown so much i want a nose job Sensitivitymy nose itches sometimes.it also is sensitive to cold air it gets red. does that count or explain it better. excretion same as fetus through my body nutrition every living cell through my body capable of perception and feeling how? and how do you know?
And that is the very point that all the loony fanatics that are pro-abortion crazed seem to forget about. That or they simply do NOT care. They use things like stem cell research as a crutch to support their addiction to pre-meditated murder. Its sad. I see someone in Wichita finally had enough of doctor death and performed their own "late term abortion". Sadly people do use abortion as birth control. If it really was about "choice", you can either choose to use birth control, or chose not to have sex. If you chose to have sex, you do so knowing the risk.