Point #1 - There's a big difference between graduating with a C average after having only got in because of your Daddy (G W Bush couldn't even get into a local state college) and graduating second in your class at Princeton. I mean - you have to be pretty God Damn bright to rank second in your class at Princeton, to not admit that takes some balls. And I'm not saying you personally have said she's dumb, but I've heard the likes of Glenn Beck dismiss her intellectually and as far as I can tell they are doing it entirely because of her race/gender. For what other reason would they be doing it? Point #2 - Her accomplishments speak for themselves. For what reason would people be questioning her other than her race and gender? If she were a white male the whole debate would be entirely different. Sure the right wing would still be trying to hit on "him" (in the case that he was a white male) on being an "activist judge" but certainly no one would actually say he wasn't bright. I mean... Let me just say this one more freaking time: SECOND IN CLASS AT PRINCETON. It's just laughable. Point #3 - Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, Pat Buchanan - plenty of people in these forums. I wont name names - I think it's pretty obvious who they are.
It's not about obstacles, or at least it wasn't for the OP.. it was about being HISPANIC. Because you "must" be a completely different person if you're from that group. Cause I don't identify people by the groups they belong to. It can be a handicap if you make it a handicap. If you want to be a victim you'll find every reason to support that belief. So if you go around thinking every time something goes wrong, "see! it's because i'm a minority, the white man's been keeping me down!". Then the white man will keep you down my friend and you will be the person you believe yourself to be, a victim. Are there still racist white people? More than enough, but you can't "fight" racism. If you are looking to fight something, you'll never win, because you're intention is to fight, not surpass and rise above the pettiness. Every war we have in America is a complete failure, war on drugs, war on poverty, war in the middle east, war on obesity, war on cancer. It's just fans the flames of whatever the hell it is. War on racism is no different.
We're not comparing smarts here. Have you accomplished what GWB has? And let's cut down on the excuses and conspiracy theories. Ahhhhhhh I see. There was no proof after all. It was all based on an assumption. So easy to point your finger and say, "whaaa whaa, he's a racist". You might as well gather a list of all conservative commentators and tell me they're racist.
Yeah I agree with you there, the OP was out of pocket on that one. But I was referring to your own comments. The point I'm making is it's not about their skin or group. It's about what they've overcome. No, it is a handicap. The fact that people overcome it is commendable, and proves it doesn't have to be their undoing. But putting a one legged man in an ass kicking contest and telling him it's a handicap only if he makes it a handicap is absurd. I mean sure we can tell them not to let it get in their way but the fact... I said, the fact... is, it is in their way. And they have to work extra hard to go over or around it. Saying a person from the PJs doesn't have social, financial, and even parental (parents who don't expect anything of their kids so don't encourage them to be anything) sounds like you're purposely trying to ignore the fact that it's a handicap. That's not what you're doing is it? It really does sound like you're trying to diminish what they go through under the guise of "we're all equal". We all want to be equal, we're moving towards being equal, but we are in fact, not equal. And by we I mean both by the way we treat people of different races, AND by the way we treat people from different socioeconomic classes. That's a good pep talk. There are probably people out there who need to here it.... But for the rest of them. The ones doing their best to make it and having to work harder than everyone else not born into poverty.... I'll continue giving them a pat on the back and giving credit where credit is due while you tell them they are imagining it. And oh by the way, just to inject some liberalism in here, if their single mother needs a bit of government assistance with say health care or maybe even food stamps to ease those concerns so she can have time to focus on doing what a supportive mother should do like help her kid with his/her homework, or help them with their projects, or just plain be supportive. I'm all for that. I have to disagree. For one the civil rights leaders throughout history fought racism and, as evidenced by today's society, they did a pretty darn good job wouldn't you agree? Wars? How about the civil war?
Fair enough, but you are missing the most important one. Education. There are many components to education, including private primary and secondary education, grade average, social programs, undergrad school grade average and honors, and most important the exclusivity of your grad school, your graduating ranking/honors, the clubs you belonged to, and your position in those clubs. Given the lifelong scholastic resume of Barack Obama and the accolades he has collected along the way, I'd say there are very few of his equals on this planet. It is one of the reasons he has made many appointments from academia. The fact is, we are not all equal, and will never be. This election was an affirmation of the type of intelligence and inequality that should be governing our nation. The dumbshit gun toting, flag waving, praying Republican base is representative of the lower class of our society that is meant to be ruled, not to lead. Bush's scholastic accolades are weak at best (C Average) and faked at worst. As a human being, he is obviously not the equal of Barack Obama and is not fit to lick the bottom of Michelle Obama's shoes, no less sit in the same room with her. The same is true of anyone else who disagrees with Barack.
Huh? I thought this very thread was about how he nominated a "jenny from the block". You've been playing this act over and over again at every show. It seems it's starting to confuse you a bit The bad thing about creating an entire account around a joke is that once everyone gets it, the joke gets old and becomes irrelevant. --sad face here--
I'm not sure which joke you are referring to, but whichever it is, I can assure you that not everyone gets it. As far as this thread is concerned, I'm not sure what J. Lo has to do with Sotomayer. Putting a minority on the SC is old hat. Putting an overt racist on the SC hasn't been done in a few decades.
You're mixing things up here.. first you said pigment of skin but now we're talking about poverty and what not. Socioeconomic obstacles, yeah I recognize that. But let's get one thing straight here, minorities aren't the only ones who grow up in that shit. I'm very white (90% German) and I grew up in a very poor environment. Divorced parents, non-supportive alcoholic dad, and mom who couldn't be a mother from all the stress of trying to get by. I grew up in poverty, and I also grew up without much of a family. We don't live in the city so there's no "group" or friends to rely on, for social support. I'm still dealing with the mental consequences it left, and my problems NEVER get recognized by "society". It sure would be easy for me to dress, talk and act like a thug and blame everyone for my problems. Maybe steal a few purses and knife a few guys, get some understanding from others, maybe then they'll recognize all my problems. I'll always be white though and that's working against me, you don't get props for being white until you're an old man, then you can qualify for being a bum. I've had so many "minority" friends who had so much more than me, that's why I say this pigment of skin crap is bullshit. Yeah, MLK was the shit. Wars? Uh, no. For one, the Civil War was not at all about racism or even slavery. Lincoln was a white supremacist! Even if it were about slavery, it's ridiculous to believe killing hundreds of thousands of men, and spending all that money could be worth it, while we were the only Western nation to end slavery through war.
You saw the part where I said I would celebrate a white male overcoming adversity as I would a poor minority right? I didn't just say that for the sake of saying it. That statement literally comes from first hand experience. As a former commissioned officer in the U.S. Army I had soldiers under my leadership from varying walks of life. I listened to their stories on a few different occasions be it down time in the field or what have you. One of the soldiers I greatly admired was a young white guy who had overcome not only poverty, but parents who had tried to raise him to hate black people specifically. He and a few other soldiers we knew were as good a group of friends as we could be considering my position. He joined the military to get away from all of that and the last I heard from him he left the military after after reaching the rank of E6 (Staff Sergeant) and earning his BS degree. He's now a telecom specialist with AT&T doing pretty darn well for himself. I am very proud of what he did with himself because of what he overcame to get there. What's wrong with that? So yes I fully understand that minorities aren't the only ones who have it tough. No one is making that argument here. If you go back and read carefully the point I'm making is that a minority overcoming adversity deserves to be celebrated. I didn't say ONLY minorities. I initially spoke about minorities specifically because, well... that's what we were talking about. And I would like to respectfully point out to you sir that that statement is bullshit. There is some truth in what you say. When you're poor, color doesn't matter, it sucks equally. No argument there. My point is that the difference comes when they try to rise from it. I don't think there is any argument at all that white males dominate positions of power both government and civilian in this country. There are still in this day and age very racially prejudiced people in our nation. I could link you to dozens of online communities filled with both white men and women who will proudly say the N word and every other racial slur and prejudice from behind an anonymous internet alias. Some of them are just jobless morons but some are teachers, doctors, managers, and CEOs. Or people in any other position where they can make it harder for minorities and, as evidenced by some of their posts on forums, they have no problem doing so as long as they think they can get away with it. Actually, Slavery was not the sole cause of the Civil War. However, slavery underpinned the major reasons for the war, as well as played a significant role in the way the war was prosecuted and the outcome of the war. All I was doing was countering your assertion that you can't fight racism by pointing out that they (civil rights leaders) did. And your assertion that every war has been a failure by pointing out the civil war. You say it's ridiculous... I say that the civil war's outcome laid the foundation for those civil rights leaders to even be allowed to speak. Whether it's worth its cost depends on what type of nation you'd rather be living in today. Consider the alternative, being the war not having been fought and everything remaining as it was.
Congrats to the neocons. They got another one of their own elected. Her race or religious affiliation shouldnt be an issue at all. Shes catholic? big wowzee. A good majority of catholics are neocons anyways. Im catholic but not a neocon lol. Why am I hearing all over the tv comedy channels that shes a reverse racist? I cant say yes or no since I dont know enough about her to comment.
You're not sure which joke I'm referring to but you are sure not everyone gets it? Well if the whole point of you having an account here is to entertain or confuse the newbies while the rest of us have grown up conversations who am I to argue with you? So I guess the only thing left to say is, good luck with that? You should ask your buddy bogus. It was his post I was referring to. Now stop asking serious questions like that and go back to being a clown for us. Do something funny.
I hope you're also willing to admit there isn't any argument that Jews own most of the power in the world? The reason people use the N word so much is because it has such a huge impact in people's reactions to it. Racists are like trolls, they want attention. So they use offensive language to get attention, and then morons like Al Sharpton flock to the scene to "combat" the language, giving the trolls attention. Remember the saying, "don't feed the trolls"? So are you proud of all the suffering that happened because of that war? When it could have ended in a peaceful way? Are you one of the "shoot first, think later" kinds of people? We'll never know the alternatives. They could have been better or worse, but you're assuming the only alternative is that they'd be worse.
Lol. It's a shame cowards like this can't come on and just discuss it. If you were right, and I did hate lots of other people, you'd be able to show it through debate. But I guess that shows you're not too bright, maybe you don't have the mental capacity to make your point with me, or you could just be afraid?