North Korea says it has successfully conducted a nuclear test.

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  1. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #21
    You have proof of this? From all I can tell, hes the comedic sidekick Obama brought along for entertainment. Gibbs is vying for the spot, and may be winning from what I can tell.
     
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    #22
    Show must go on. USA won't start new war vs N. Korea for now.
    I think there're 2 reasons why USA cannot do it now.
    1st N. Korea isn't a multiethnic country like Iraq. It means USA can't play their favorite game that calls The Ethnic Conflict as it was in former Yugoslavia, Iraq and Afghanistan.
    2nd. N. Korea hasn't oil and USA would be unable to return spent money. So, it means N. Korea is a bad business project for USA.
     
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  3. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #23
    #1 sounds like complete BS
    #2 sounds right on target
     
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  4. GeorgeB.

    GeorgeB. Notable Member

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    #24
    lol it's nothing to do with that.

    We can't start a war for both strategic/logistical reasons and financial reasons.

    1) Thanks to the Bush wars, our military is stretched pretty thin. The irony? It's that we're too busy fighting battles over imaginary WMDs to challenge the countries that actually tell us they have or are developing WMDs. Iran and NK are thankful for our middle east blunder.

    2) China has always been an ally of North Korea. And if we want them to keep buying our debt and not call for us to pay up we'd better not piss them off. With more debt building on the horizon we're not in a very good position.
     
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    nick2007 Well-Known Member

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    #25
    Sorry, what is BS?
    English isn't my native language, it's my hobby.
     
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  6. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #26
    BS = Bull Shit, Crap, Ca Ca, Nonsense, Made up, Not based on reality
     
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    hostlonestar Peon

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    #27
    Nick, it's ok English is not your native language, your better than me. I know a few phrases in many languages, but, I am not proficient in any other ones than English, and even though its my native language, I still have trouble with it at times lol.

    Not only can the US not invade any other countries because our forces are stretched to thin, but, the US hasn't trained on divisional meneuvars since the Iraq/Afghan thing started. What does that mean?

    Well, I read a study someone did on the US military. The US would beat NK, if everything stayed conventional, in about 7 years. That is just actually invading. Why? Because to invade you need to work as a division sized element. You cant have these half assed brigades running around doing their own things. The US has trained on counter insurgency tactics, not invasions.

    And what is it with VP's? Is it a prerequisite you have to be retarded? Or at least more retarded than your pres?
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #28
    y€s. dan quayl€ was th€ post€r child
     
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    #29
    It makes the president look good. That's why Dick 'the Dark Lord' Cheney was a bad pick for Bush. His daddy had ol' Taters, and Clinton had a plank of wood. But Bush Jr. chose someone who should have been kept in the shadows of the state department, if he had made a good choice for an idiot it would have been Quayle again, or perhaps some random idiot who was once a mayor and thinks that because they're so close to Russia that they know Foreign Policy, and they have an unnatural fear of disembodied giant heads spying on them.

    Yep... that would have made G.W. look like Einstein. Someone would take a bullet to prevent his VP from getting in office. Unfortunately this time around, Palin was one 71 year old man's heartbeat away from the Whitehouse if he had been elected. That is scarier than socialism.
     
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    #30
    How can you call the creator of the internet a "plank of wood"!!!???:confused:
     
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  11. imad

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    #31
    Congratulations to North Korea and all members of the so-called axis of evil,

    if we can't get rid of all nukes in the world, then we should work to let every country have them, and of course this is not for using them, but this will prevent the direct usage (throwing a nuclear bomb on somebody's head) or the indirect usage, by threatening with them to control other countries,

    in the past an independent country is a country who does not have foreign troops on it, now it is this and add to it (a country that owns a nuclear weapon) the blame mostly falls on the practices by countries that owns the nuclear weapon in trying to control the countries that do not own it,

    as we have seen in Iraq, imagine if Iraq had nuclear then, what may happen, sorry I mean, what may not happen?

    I hope both Iran and N. Korea would cooperate in the fields of rockets and satellite, energy and economic, to break the sanctions put on them, and work for the better of their people.
     
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    #32
    My god, how did we ever manage no other "Direct usage" since the first time they were ever used, without every other country having them.:confused: When you say indirect usage, you must be referring to Israel using them to "control" other countries like, well, practically every nation that surrounds it from invading them and committing genocide against them. You are just full of noble causes.

    I hope Hitler comes back to life and starts a charitable organization for the aide and assistance of the poorer people in Israel. I hope Dick Cheney becomes a Democrat and marches in the streets to protest water boarding. I hope the Doors get back together. I hope the pope converts to Atheism and sends the catholic church out to preach against the evils of religion. I hope that Nancy Pelosi knocks on my door dressed in nothing but a bath towel while my wife is away with the kids on vacation. I think you get the picture.
     
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  13. imad

    imad Peon

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    #33
    how did we ever manage no other usage? because there wasn't only one who owns nuke then, thanks to USSR, regardless if we agree with their policy or not, they saved the world from another nuke usage when Nixon wanted to nuke Vietnam, for maybe another lame reason like (put an end to war to save more lives)
     
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    #34
    So if Russia prevented further Direct usage, why does Iran need one again? or North Korea? hmmm.
     
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    #35
    for the same reason Israel needed at least 150 of them despite U.S. is their ally
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #36
    Wow, you changed completely revised your post. Fine. Now you are saying that if Iran and N.Korea don't get them, they will be invaded by their surrounding neighbors and have genocide committed against them? Pass the crack pipe. We, (the US) just took out the only neighbor of Iran that tried to invade them. IF anything they should feel safer. Pass the crack pipe man. The only reason Iran and N.Korea have to be concerned about invasion is BECAUSE they are seeking nuclear weapons. Practically every civilized nation in the world is condemns them for it. Its like being caught by the police while robbing a convenience store and reaching for your gun because you are afraid the police will shoot you. You reach for the gun, the police will shoot you, and nobody will mourn for someone so stupid.
     
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    #37
    ah, so the requirements now, to have a nuclear weapon, you need:

    1- to be invaded by a neighbor country? (does it have to be a neighbor here) and
    2- a genocide to be committed against your people.

    ?

    good then, Palestinians should obtain nukes too.
     
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    #38
    Too bad the world doesn't agree with your views on Palestinian genocide. You didnt address my comment but I'll repeat myself even though I know you wont address it anyway. Iran and N. Korea are at risk of invasion and genocide at the hands of their neighbors or anyone else? No. You don't need the bee bee gun. You'll shoot your eye out kid.

    Here's something fun. How does it feel to stand in defiance of not only America, but the practically the whole frigging planet including Russia and China? I mean, when your kid calls you an asshole, hes just being disrespectful. When one neighbor calls you an asshole, it might be a personal issue. When all your neighbors call you an asshole, there might be something to it. When the whole world, including your kids, neighbors, and everyone else calls you an asshole, I'd say the issue is settled. You are an asshole. And there you have Kim Jong Il's N. Korea. Now why is the whole world wrong, and you are right?
     
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    #39
    Are you off your fucking nut? Hilary threatened to "obliterate" Iran during her election campaign and Israel has all its nukes pointed at them right now. If i were them i'd start building nukes ASAP as a deterrent.
     
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    #40
    the world does not agree with my own views :eek:

    the world is either with me or against me ;)

    kid, the world never agreed on one view regarding anything, not North Korea, not Palestine, not Iraq, not Iran..

    or did you mean the civilized world?
     
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