i have a hatered for islam

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  1. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #461
    What do you think about Turkish singer Bulent Ersoy?

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  2. Br33z3

    Br33z3 Peon

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    #462
    she (yes she) ;) has a great voice

    if u r asking about her sexual choice, its her choice, it doesn't concern me

    by the way, there is a street here and so many trannies live there
    so we call it trannies street
    and sometimes they say hello when passing frm that street and I say hello too
    and also I can say that their conversation is really good and makes me lough all the time
    they r entertaining people

    and once I went to a tranny bar just 'cos of curiosity
    it was interesting ;)

    and I have a gay friend ;)
     
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  3. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #463
    "And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be modest, and that they should not display of their adornment except what may (ordinarily) appear, and they they draw their veils over their bosoms, and do not display their beauty except to their own husbands or fathers or husbands' fathers, or their sons or their husbands' sons, or their brothers or their brothers' sons or sisters' sons, or their women, or their slaves, or male attendants who lack vigour, or children who who no sense of shame of sex. And they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And turn unto God together, O believers, in order that you may attain bliss." (An-Nur 24:31)
     
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    Vebtools Well-Known Member

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    #464
    may i know you write down these wonderful word of Allah for what purpose?
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #465
    I was just shoked to see Turkey allow this person to remain so uncovered. It is a sin in the eyes of Allah.
     
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    #466
    I think by saying "this person" u r talking about me...
    believe me friend, what u know about Turkey is all wrong.

    Turkey is a secular country
    it means, its unconstituonal to mix religious things with governmental things
    I mean, Turkey can't say me what to believe or what to wear, its my own choice

    also, under the laws of Turkey, all people r equal by not considering religion, language, racial
    I think u don't know about our Leader "Mustafa Kemal Ataturk"
    pls search about him, his principles, his reforms

    and if it is sin as u said, it is between me and the God
    nothing about Turkey or the government

    and if u curious about if I believe or not
    of course I believe in God
     
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    Vebtools Well-Known Member

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    #467

    yeah it is a sin. i dont have any info about her (Muslim or not etc). so i can not say anything about her.


    Allah said


    now if muslim women follow, its good if she does not follow its her choice no one can blame to Allah or Muslims
     
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  8. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #468
    True. But she should be subject to the law which clearly states:
    "women who appear without the sharia’ covering in public will be condemned to 10 days to 2 months prison or a cash fine of 50,000 to 500,000 rials"

    Personally, I think the 72 lashes was more appropriate. No need to keep people poor.
     
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    Vebtools Well-Known Member

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    #469

    I think these rules for Turky Muslims only.

    BTW she is popular singer i think pay fine daily lolz

    and turky currency is lira not Rials i think
     
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    #470
    Those rules are sharia.
     
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    #471
    Turkish singer Bulent Ersoy is a transsexual.
     
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    I am Muslim but I do not and will never go and try to teach anyone about Islam, specially "Christians" because they just don't listen to anyone and in the end of the conversation they say bad words to Islam, so why should I waste my time with them.

    If they have some faith in the rules of Islam (which are really not very strict) they will learn themselves without anyone teaching them.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #473
    I believe Allah would still call her a woman since he has the equipment. Now if she were to be a transvestite, I'm not sure where that would put her with the Sharia law. Any Muslim scholars around that can answer that one?
     
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    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #474
    Gosh man, you come across as very arrogant in this post.

    I had a Muslim taxi driver preaching to me in a cab on the weekend. I'm Christian and did listen to what he had to say, but you shouldn't be preaching to anyone. If someone wants to know more about Islam, they will ask.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #475
    I know. My post was for the edification of those who may be advocates of such a thing, and I think we both know who we are talking about.
     
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    #476
    first of all, sorry for misunderstanding
    I thought u were talking about me but u intended Bulent Ersoy
    anyway, my words would be similar ;)

    yes
    those rules r sharia
    and nothing to do with Turkish muslims

    Turkish currency is lira, thats right

    Bulent Ersoy is a very popular transexual (as @bogart said) singer in Tr
    she was also popular when she was male
    and she is also popular now
    and most of the Turkish people love her
    'cos her voice is really great
    to me, ok, her voice is great but I don't like her music style


    I don't agree with u
    as @dcristo said, ur post is a little bit arrogant
    on my own, I can say that I'm not here to teach anyone anything
    the word "teaching" is really insolence
    I'm just sharing my opinion here and trying to answer questions 'cos I don't want people to know all the muslims r same and bad
    but if u express urself as this way, with these words, its unavoidable to hear bad words frm Christians
    don't forget my friend, we believe in the same God
    there is no reason for unable to understand eachother

    I wish I have enough knowledge to answer ur question
    all I can say is, if she was living in a country which sharia laws r valid, she can't be a transexual I think

    by saying "transvestite", do u mean, only acting like a female?
    if yes, she is not like that
    she got married 2 or 3 times



    p.s.
    sorry, I'm trying to understand all of the things u r saying but its hard for me to understand and reply, as this is a very sensitive and significant subject
    I don't wanna hurt anyone
    but sometimes I can use wrong expressions
    for some words I use a dictionary and u know dictionaries ;)
    pls don't look for any malice under my any word
     
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    #477
    if i remember i think some one in this forum said iranian insurance pays for sex exchange operation. khomaini had authorized it. i do not know if this is true or not and i am not sure if it was bogart that said it or someone else. the world is a funny place. lolz
     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    #478
    Iran is :D

    Iran is ok with transsexuals. Ayotallah Khomeini issued a fatwa that said gender identity disorder was actually a medical condition, and that transgender individuals should be treated with gender reassignment surgery.

    http://www.socyberty.com/Gay-&-Lesb...Put-to-Death-But-Transsexuals-are-Okay-.50581

    Ahmadinejad says that there's no gays in Iran.

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    #479
    No it's not you fool. No country is. Iran, like many countries mix its own laws with elements of Sharia.
     
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    #480
    The Ayatollah Begs to Differ ;)

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