From Israel 2 Lebanon

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by mariush, Jul 20, 2006.

  1. Czech

    Czech Peon

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    #321
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    Hi Guys, sorry to butt into your little debate here, but I thought I would make a reply to the above question.

    The Commandments were indeed limited to a certain time period, the laws were not never ending.

    God gave the nation of Israel the Law with its many features, & regarding them the apostle Paul wrote: “They were legal requirements pertaining to the flesh and were imposed until the appointed time to set things straight.” (Hebrews 9:10)

    Clearly then we see there was to come a time when they ( the commandments ) were to be removed, when was this to be ?

    Paul made this very clear when he said “Christ is the end of the Law.” Romans 10:4 ( a more detailed explanation is found in Galatians 3:19-25; 4:4, 5 )

    BUT while the law was removed at the time of Christ ( which the Jews do not acknowledge ) the Principles of these laws were still to be adheared to as other scriptures will testify, but I'll not bore you with these unless you should ask for them.


    As for quoting Matt 5: 44 "However, I say to you Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those persecuting you."
    This scripture is not accepted by the Jews as they reject the Christian Greek scriptures & only accept the Hebrew scriptures.
     
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    #322
    True, the New Testament is all about love. Where is the New Testament of the Quaran?
     
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    Didoz Active Member

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    #323
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    #324
    Yahhhhhhhhhhhhhwwwwwwwwwwwn
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #325
    this site, much like negotiating with terrorists, doesn't work :p
     
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    Didoz Active Member

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    #326
    i don't think kids are terrorits.
     
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  7. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #327
    Actucally here in London were were subjected to more than 20 years of bombings and killings by the IRA and PIRA, that although was also a nationalistic struggle to free Northern Ireland was founded on religious unrest between Catholic Ireland and the Protestants in Northern Ireland and the UK.

    The IRA were largely funded by Americans and Irish-Americans. Perhaps we should a lobbed a few missiles into the USA, I mean if we killed a few of you it wouldn't matter because you were all guilty as some of your countrymen sent money to the IRA.

    I think you're also forgetting the largely Hindu Tamils in Sri-Lanka and the war with the mainly Buddist Sinhalese in southern Sri-Lanka. The Tamils have a large navy, high-tech weapons as well as unsing women and childrn in suicide attacks.

    The Christian Nagaland rebels in India who want independance from Hindu Indian and use bombings to achieve their aims.

    The LRA or Lords Resistance Army in Sudan is a mix of Christian, Muslim and African religions. In order to seice power and establish a state based on the 10 commandments. Their tactics employ kidnap, rape, suicide bombings, the deliberate spread of AIDS and cannibalism.

    Not to mention the ethnic cleansing and persecution of Muslims in Chechnya and the Balkans.

    That's not including the mist obvious Christian terrorist groups under you nose in the USA. The Army of God that uses violence against abortion clinics and their workers and praise the beheadings of homosexuals in Saudi-Arabia (Are you a menber of these guys GTech?)

    Also your dear old KKK that use a Christian doctorine to justify the kidnap rape and murder of blacks and other undesireables. Okay, these guys don't behead people. but hanging someone from a tree and burning them alove isn't what I'd call Christian peace and love.

    So when you say,

    You're actually not just showing that you're a bigot, but an ignorant bigot also.
     
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    #328
    INstead of just spamming a link in here, why don't you give a brief explanation on what is on that link?
     
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    #329
    A paypal donation scam :p
     
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    #330
    I don't think there is a need for this kind of namecalling at all.
     
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    #331
    Probably asking for donations for kids, so they can buy more weapons.
     
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    maldives Prominent Member

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    #332
    I think so too :rolleyes:
     
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  13. MattUK

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    #333
    I don't think GTech can actually arge since I've already been labeled a liberal and an anti-semite ;)
     
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  14. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #334
    I highlighted the important word there.

    Misleading. "Partly" funded by individuals would be more accurate. Not unlike members of CAIR here in the US and the many "individuals" who fund terrorist activities around the world that our Patriot Act goes after. The IRA is history.

    Buddhists and Hindus are not a threat to my family, myself, my country or my way of life. So no, I'm not forgetting anyone. Your moral equivalence has no foundation, as usual.

    The LRA are not a threat to my family, myself, my country or my way of life. So no, I'm not forgetting anyone in the least bit. Your moral equivalence has no foundation, as usual. The killing taking place in the Sudan is muslims slaughtering Christians.

    I'm trying to remember...what countries helped out there? I bet a former General that ran on the Democrat ticket would know, you think? No moral equivalence there!

    Really? Where are they? I'm trying to remember, when is the last time "we" had an abortion clinic bombing here? Extremely weak moral equivalence. In addition, your support for murdering 1.4 million babies in the abortion thread would make this argument biased. You've already admitted your desire to murder babies.

    What "Christian" doctrine is that? Source? I'm trying to remember, when was the last time someone was hung here? More weak moral equivalence.

    Protecting your anti-Semite views isn't going to work, Matt. Not only is your poor argument weak and without foundation, it fails as usual to address my point in the least bit. But I can see why. You can't.

    You tried the racist card, but failed miserably there. Ignorance allowed you to presume that a religion was a race. You tried the discrimination card, but it failed miserably again. And now, the bigot card has failed, because once again, you do not have the ability to address points in your quest for moral equivalence. A three time failure in your quest to cover up your anti-Semitic views.

    Maybe you should refocus your energies on murdering little babies. You seem to take great pride and joy in the extermination of innocent babies with heartbeats in the abortion thread. Perhaps you are trying to make up for your shortcomings there?

    Next?
     
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  15. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #335
    I have to agree with you on this one. I'm pretty sure I cannot arge. I've never written an Archaeological Resource Guide for Europe.
     
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    #336
    So if the Muslim terrorists were doing all of this 5-10 years ago it all would have been okay with you?

    Weak arguement GTech ;)

    There were many many IRA supporters in the USA and the IRA was hugely funded by them. Isn't that what the US is doing at the moment, going after the areas that finance and provide a haven for terrorists?

    Like it or not that was the US for the IRA. Does that mnake you a terrorist GTech, because by your logic it does. Guilty by association.

    LOL, so if they don't hurt you it's all okay in your book! Wow, what a moralist. Though I think you're missing the point of the arguement was that other religions are just of guilty of terrorism that the 'Muslims'
    Strage you avoiding the arguement again and ignoring the facts, maybe that's why you're ignorant of much of the world?

    From the KKK homepage
    Missing the facts and ignorant again - I'm seeing a trend emerging :)

    Like I said before, I'm not anti-Semite. I'm for Israel and Israel protecting themselves against terrorists - you points fall down yet again! I'm just against bigots, racists and ill-informed people in general. - Whatever side they're on.
     
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  17. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #337
    It's not a matter of if, they were. See how easy it is to turn a weak argument from someone that just doesn't have a clue, against them? Are you having troubles here, Matt? :D

    You're welcome to source it. I figure you haven't so far, because as usual, you can't. Just opinion.

    No source, huh? Does it? Probably not anymore than your current attempts at racist (failed), discrimination (failed) and bigot (failed) makes you a terrorist supporter. But I have to admit, you know deep down who and what you support. I understand your need to mask your anti-Semitism. You are embarrassed by it ;)

    Where did I say that? Are you intentionally lying again, Matt? When people can't hold an argument, they will resort to lying to save face. Shame on you!

    Just as guilty? What kind of moral equivalence is that? Are you keeping stats? Do you have a source that keeps track of all terrorism and tallies up who is doing the most? Not only lying, but this is the weakest moral equivalence attempt yet!

    Depends on who you ask, but I'd say they are failing miserably. Look, you have something else in common with the KKK!

    Projectionism at it's finest. I understand your embarrassment of being anti-Semite. Are you embarrassed that you support the murdering 1.4 million babies too? You just glassed right over it, didn't you?

    Anything esle? If not, feel free to change your diapers and come back for more ;)
     
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    #338
    Yup, KKK, they use christian and the bible as loosely as some of the democrats I have seen. I guess that would be another good reason for the nazis to join the democratic party. lol.
    They believe only pieces of the bible and what they don't want to agree with they say the Jews rewrote.
    But, then again, we have been over the nazi thing a thousand times but some want to hold on to it, cause they have nothing else I guess.
     
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    #339
    The question is not whether the KKK consider themselves Christian, but whether Christians consider them Christians.
     
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    #340
    Only trouble with you logic. You're avoiding the point (yet again) I love the way you twist and aruement from the facts when you're proved wrong and try to argue a differnt point - it's great until you get found out :p

    The fact of the matter is, other religions are just as bloodthirsty as Muslims. When I proved that you start to come up with all sorts of weak poits in an effort to justify terrorism.

    - It was a few years ogo so that makes it okay
    - It didn't threaten me so it's okay

    Source of IRA funding
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1563119.stm
    Proved wrong again GTech, the theme continues

    Short memory? It happens at your age old man :p

    Proved wrong yet again, weak aruements and avoiding the truth, maybe you should be a politician, though I guess most parties would have trouble hding you bigotry and racism for too long, it would all end up coming out in the end.

    You can call me anti-Semitic as much as you like, I've yet to see any proof of this. Unlike you I live in a multi-culural society. I have Jewish friends, black friends, a Tamil Hindu girlfriend and work with many nationalities and religions. I don't discrimiate against anyone. Sure, I personally dislike people such as yourself, especially when I see bigotry and discrimination.

    I actually feel sorry for you in a way, a poor bitter old guy sitting at home with his computer for company looking forward to his daily arguements with people who he'll never meet - let alone like him. The world has passed him by and he's struggling to understand it. He can't understand why everyone isn't bigoted and racist anymore, he looks forward to the conflicts agains other parts of the world and shout GO USA at the TV and it gives him an excuse to front his thinly veiled racism again.

    Well good luck old man, your time has passed :)

    I'm off out to a Hindu engagemant party now and I'll go hug some Jews on the way ;)
     
    MattUK, Jul 22, 2006 IP