US bombing of Hiroshima Nagasaki was it a act of terrorism?

There are several reasons that the A-Bomb droppings were egregious, unnecessary acts of terrorism. Most importantly, the war was at that point all but over, and the motive of both bombs was to strike fear in the hearts of both the Japanese holdouts and any other enemies who might dare defy the mighty US. The demonstration was as much for the benefit of supposed allies such as the Soviet Union as the crushed Axis powers.
The attack was decidedly not military, or strategic; the destroyed areas were mostly civilian and the victims non-combatants. There is significant evidence that the development of the nuclear bomb was hastened so as to allow a demonstration before the cessation of hostilities, and this suggests that ending the war was not a reason.
Absolutely terrorist acts.

 

That explanation works if you are willing to accept allegations derived from half truths as fact. Unfortunately, as usual, its not quite that simple.

Fact: Japanese were ready to surrender after the dropping of the first bomb, not before. Not sure if that qualifies as "all but over".

Fact: Japanese did not accept unconditional surrender, including regime change, until after the second.

Fact: Dropping the bombs showed the Soviets we were ready and willing to use our demonstrated nuclear might.

While one can gather that we may have dropped the bomb to test our weapons and scare Russia, to say those were the only has absolutely no factual backing whatsoever.

Furthermore, the Japanese were committing genocide in their occupied territories throughout Asia, in slave labor camps and more. Estimates place the total number of civilians killed by Japan between 4-10 million. When you consider the number of lives saved, both civilian and military, from the hands of the Japanese by bringing an immediate end to the war, it is easily arguable that the number killed by those two bombs was less than the alternative that would have been killed during the time consumed by a conventional invasion and occupation of Japan.

I'll concede your ulterior motives. Can you concede the numbers I presented are historically accurate?

 

Still no answer from the terrorism supporters....

 

there are no supporters of terrorism here, except those who think that atomic bombing of civilian cities, killing thousands, disabling even more is justified!

and the funny thing is that they still want to act as the 'champions of humanity'

 

So basicly you are saying that if you get attacked first you are free to do whatever you want?
And someone is jelous because you literaly fried 1000s and 1000s of innocent people?!? Are you fucking serious?!?
Do you have any clue how many innocent kids was killed by those two nukes?
It's incredible how some people can be proud of killing innocent people...

 

No. I can't believe people are as retarded as you are. The killing of a few innocent civilians was necessary to prevent the killing of WAY more. You know? The ones that would have died should the war had been fought conventionally all the way to the end? Sometimes civilians die in war. It's called collateral damage.

And yes, people are jealous of America. Why else would people try to complain about everything we do?

 

Than think before you post. Just for a change.

Hmmmmmm guess that peeps who read this can see who is actually retarded here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki
Few innocent civilians...

So innocent civilians killed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki were collateral damage? Can you explain than what was main military targets in those two cities than?
Strategic targets perhaps?
Since when intentionally killing civilians durings wars isn't war crime? Since US doing it? And you have guts to call someone terrorist supporter?!? Get real!

First, I never saw in my life than someone from outside US complaining what you do IN US!
Second, are you serious asking why someone argue about killing innocent civilians?!?

 

Compared to as many as 10 million killed by the Japanese, yeh, its a few. It also brought an end to the war. Something similar is going to have to happen in Palestine for that ugly conflict of more than 60 years to end. You are saying you prefer a conflict that drags out indefinitely?

When that same person advocates the killing of civilians on 911 on NUMEROUS OTHER POSTS, absolutely. Get a grip. Next thing you know, the ideology of this moron will have you trying to plant bombs at Jewish community centers in the US. Idiocy is contagious amongst the mentally weak.

 

No, I don't think that was the act of terrorism because that was WWII. But that was a very cruel war criminal.

 

SO as per your definition everything is allowed in war ? what if today one country declares war and nukes the other ... won't it be terrorism ?

 

You need to get a dictionary. If I shoot my neighbor over a property line dispute, I am going to jail for murder. If I shoot someone from my neighboring country at the behest of my government over any kind of dispute whatsoever, that is sanctioned and all is well once peace is declared. It may sound silly to you (and frankly to anyone who really reads it), but that is the way war works. Thats why we have a different word for Terrorism. Why are so many people afraid of the dictionary.

 

means what hamas was doing was not terrorism ..since they were in Govt

 

means what Sadam did in Iraq was not terrorism..since He was Prime minister of Iraq

 

Is ignorance a requirement to support Islamic terrorists?

It sure seems to be the common thread here on DP.

 

Have you been living in a cave(don't answer that)? The home grown Bush hatred was created from Bush's inability to link Sadaam to terrorists. Yes Sadaam invaded Kuwait and raped and killed, yes he used chemical weapons on his own people and put them in mass graves, yes he imprisoned and tortured any dissenting voices. Terrorists would have only been able to setup base in Iraq with Sadaams blessing. From Sadaams own files, there is evidence they had just setup a camp prior to the invasion, but had the US not invaded, it may have been wiped out by Sadaam.

No Hamas remains a terrorist organization. Long before Hamas took control of govt., they were a terrorist organization. You think that when a terrorist organization takes power it somehow legitimizes them?

 

Yes, it is pure jealousy. Because we have things you don't have. That is just how the world works. People get jealous when others have things they don't have. It's called human nature. Enjoy it while you can.

Apparently you are unable to understand, the amount of people killed from the nukes in Japan is FAR less than the amount of people that would have died from a war that just drags on and on like the Palestinian crap.

But, your hatred for things blinds your common sense, which, apparently isn't too common here on DP, especially by supporters of radical islamic extremists like you. Instead of just supporting them on here, how about you actually go pick up a gun and go support them the proper way. By hiding amongs civilians and then cry foul when they get whacked.

Oh, I know why you won't do that.

You see, unlike you, some of us have actually done overt thigns for stuff we believe in. You know, went out and joined them. But, if your scared, your scared, there is nothing that will change that.

 

And that's why people criticize you when you kill innocent civilians?!? Get real! That "jelous" thing is most retarded excuse I ever heard but it's common from kids like you are.

Another crap I hear all the time and another retarded excuse for use nukes. So, can you tell me how many German cities were nuked to stop WWII? One? Two? Five?
Claiming that war would last forever without using nukes is simply a lie.

Actually as I can see here clearly you are the one who supports killing innocent civilians and you try to hide that fact accussing me for same thing. Lame if you ask me. Of course, I would like to see how I "support islamic extremists" but than again things like facts are something that you don't care about.

You see, unlike you, I don't know shit about you personally so I can say crap about people like you do. You don't even know my personal name yet you make claims about me!
Reading your posts that's nothing suprising thou. Keep living in your lalaland.

 

as per your definition, when they took power, there acts become act of state not acts of terrorism (since this is the only logic you are using to prove japan nuking as a legitimate act)
Oh I forget, since you gave the definition, you also have exclusive rights to label out individual organizations and Govt's terrorists , depending on your mood and liking

 

Saying that war would last indefinitely without using nukes is pure lie. How many nukes did Germany got before they surrender?
And saying that lives of 140,00 innocent people is nothing because someone killed way more than that is digusting. And you guys wonder why there's so much people in the world that doesn't like you?

I was asking because he was talking to me eg quoted me. I am not spokeperson for anyone else here.

 

Yeah, I probably have more life experiance than you. But it's ok, throw that kid word around.

The war in Germany was already over smart guy. The war with Japan would have drawn out quite a bit of time which would have caused more deaths than what the nukes caused.

You're a moron. I have been shot trying to not kill civilians that were being hid behind by insurgents in Iraq. A mistake I didn't make again. You see, Americans are getting tired of loosing other Americans to the way the cowards fight.

That doesn't even make any sense.