Article Marketing via Articlesbase - does it make sense?

Discussion in 'Copywriting' started by artcodesign, May 21, 2009.

  1. #1
    Hi,
    I have written a dozen of new articles and decided to publish them on articlesbase.com
    First, I was very excited to see how fast these got indexed and I saw that it is a good distribution channel. The site has a syndication box where anybody can pick your article and publish on their website/blog - giving you a bunch of backlinks. Soon my article appeared on many blogs and I went to check on them.
    I was dissapointed to see that all those blogs have the "nofollow" tag near my links. Basically, it is useless for SEO since Google will disregard my links and won't give me credit for PR.

    I checked further and saw that in fact the "nofollow" comes from the syndication box from articlesbase.com Thus, they are the ones that give my article to everybody with the "nofollow" in it. Why, why they are doing this???


    You would say that - if I don't get credit for PR, at least I get some traffic from those blogs. Well, a part of them put source info and author bio details and links to my site with a MICRO Font size, impossible to be read by humans. It just looks that those are not there, making blog visitors believe that they are the original authors of the article.
    Thus, my articles are on many sites, but I don't get any results for SEO due to "noffollow" implied by articlesbase.com and I get no traffic due to invisible links to my site implied by blog owners.

    Basically, looks that I just supply people with fresh content without getting anything in exchange. I can't even post my own articles on my own website now as Google will think it is duplicate content and penalize me.

    I am wondering now, does it make sense to submit content to Articlesbase.com?
     
    artcodesign, May 21, 2009 IP
  2. xInd

    xInd Notable Member

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    #2
    I would contact them about the nofollow tag. If you can't get the situation with them improved, I would scrap them from the plan. If you would like some more ideas on how to market articles for your website, feel free to contact me. You can use this site to do so, or visit my signature link "X" for my website which has a link at the top to a contact page.
    Cheers.
     
    xInd, May 22, 2009 IP
  3. marketjunction

    marketjunction Well-Known Member

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    #3
    Don't use article submission for getting pagerank. That's not a wise use of resources.

    You can get a decent pagerank (if that's what you care about) from just one solid link.

    Also, you just said Google penalizes for dupe content. So, why would you worry about what all those other sites are doing with your article since they are being penalized and thus any links outbound are being hit as well.

    This doesn't even address the fact that if the site isn't in the same "neighborhood" as your site, it doesn't really do much with following allowed anyway.

    So pagerank and submitting articles don't belong in the same sentence anymore.

    Instead, the point of submitting your articles should be one or more of the following:

    1. Build brand / credibility

    2. Build a mailing list

    3. Make affiliate sales

    4. Redirect traffic to AdSense page

    So when I submit an article for the purpose of building up a mailing list, I just want it everywhere. I don't care if they use this tag or that tag.

    Aside from not submitting to your chosen directory, you could contact any site using your article and ask them to remove the tag. If they say no, you can either let it go or force them to stop using your content (btw, you could use this strategy for altering your content on other people's sites too---use directory as your delivery mechanism. :D).
     
    marketjunction, May 22, 2009 IP
  4. ashleyuk

    ashleyuk Banned

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    Just wondering why your targetting artcilebase? Why not ezinearticles, its more popular
     
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  5. simplyjo

    simplyjo Well-Known Member

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    Well it is simply coz article submission will work only when you have high CTR (click through rate).See if someone uses your article on their site/blog, it is great for you, coz they have to use the resource box (Where you mention your site URL). So, use the resource box to the fullest - Make it interesting and you will get many visitors :)
     
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  6. TaliaKlein

    TaliaKlein Peon

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    Hi,

    I'm Talia from ArticlesBase. As I have mentioned before, for reason I cannot go into on public forums, we are unable to make links DoFollow at the moment, though this is something we are actively working on taking care of. As for the syndicated links, those ARE DoFollow. If a blogger uses your article and copies the code, the links are DoFollow - you will receive the credit for them.

    Our terms and conditions stipulate that anyone who uses your article must paste it as is, including keeping your name and information and giving you credit for your work, so if they don't, contact them or let us know.
     
    TaliaKlein, May 24, 2009 IP
  7. artcodesign

    artcodesign Peon

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    Hi Talia,
    Thank you for taking your time to write on this post.
    It was my understanding that the code from syndicated links includes nofollow tag. If it's not, then it changes the situation.
    Can you please take a look at this blog for example http://camera.blogknow.net/category/articles
    They use articles from your site, but put author details and links with micro font size after the article. Is articlesbase.com allowing such tricks?
    Thanks.
     
    artcodesign, May 28, 2009 IP
  8. artcodesign

    artcodesign Peon

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    I target ezinearticles as well. They are the biggest of course.
    Looking at the stats there, all the articles are being clicked the first few days after publishing, then no clicks at all. They get old very fast.
     
    artcodesign, May 28, 2009 IP
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    Normally article directories are a waste of time unless you rewrite contents and submit. Do not take the pain to write original compelling contents for submission. The directory will mostly rank ahead of your site for that article
     
    coolamazer, May 28, 2009 IP
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    dadeon Well-Known Member

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    #10
    Maybe article directories needs to step in and give publishers the option to allow reprint of articles ONLY if the links are DOFOLLOW links?

    I think that's a fair thing to ask for if you are going to "give" your content for them to use.
     
    dadeon, May 30, 2009 IP
  11. TaliaKlein

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    Hi,

    No, we do not allow it. I will contact the website owner to have it corrected (though it may take a few days since it is on a public blog service). Thank you for pointing this out. The site owner has played with the code. Our terms state that articles must be pasted as-is, and author information is the same size as the articles.

    Thanks for letting us know about it. If you see others abusing the system, please let us know.

    Thanks!
     
    TaliaKlein, May 31, 2009 IP
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    I've never really understood why people would submit articles to a no-follow article directory. If it's in hopes of getting your content syndicated, I don't get why others would syndicate your articles and face Google's duplicate content penalty.

    Anyway, like others have mentioned, EzineArticles is probably the best dofollow article directory, but here's list of a few others I've found that are also dofollow.

    • goarticles.com
    • articlefeeder.com
    • amazines.com
    • articledashboard.com
    • articlesfactory.com
    • ideafactory.com
    • articlecity.com
     
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    #13
    Articles are best used for their highly targeted traffic. You can get some great conversions using this traffic, the actual links coming in to your site aren't worth all that much. PR is useless anyway, don't worry about it.
     
    Gallito, May 31, 2009 IP
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    Still, given the choice, I'd rather submit articles to a dofollow article directory than a nofollow one.
     
    bogleg20, May 31, 2009 IP
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    Having checked the link to http://camera.blogknow.net/ referred to above, it does indeed appear the the links in the resource section are NO FOLLOW.

    Further, I have been told by ArticlesBase that if I submit two additional articles, they will remove the NO FOLLOW. However, the speed with which the NO FOLLOW article is indexed results in duplicate content wherever else that article is posted and, two or three articles w/have been posted and/or distributed before the NO FOLLOW is removed. I see no reason to post ANY article on articles base under these circumstances unless the posted is simply seeking to see his work published out of vanity.
     
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  16. zeekstern

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    Talia, what is ArticlesBase position of receiving an identical article that was submitted to 5 other article directories? I have read where it was perfectly acceptable and would not be rejected.

    artcodesign - I'm not trying to hijack your thread. Just trying to take advantage of Talia:))
     
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    Drdrizzle1 Greenhorn

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    Have you used Ezine Articles? I'm their newest competition and I need your help. I need comparison reviews between are two sites. Looking to pay in kind. Will give you an article package for 10 free articles a $20 value on top of the 5 free you get for signing up and a Link Building Solution of your choice a $60 value. That was definitely a run on. I'm probably going to get in trouble for offering this up for a simple comparison review so PM me quick or check us out articledirectmarketing.com/publishers_account scroll to bottom of page....
     
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  18. Foggy

    Foggy Link and Site Buyer

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    I believe Google is getting smarter at handling dup content.

    If you don't have that article on your own site then you've got nothing to worry - Google can pick up copies in as many places as it wants and there's no adverse effect for you.

    If you do want to place that on your site then make sure that Google spiders it first on your site (and make sure your site is a strong enough site - high PR, lots of rep) or you may be seen to be the duplicate and the article directory could be seen as the original.
     
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  19. ArticlePrince

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    You CANNOT get penalized by google for duplicate content; however they will only rank the 'best' version in their search results. I can't post a link the the video, just google 'google duplicate content video'. Hope that helps! By the way, I use no follow article directories, but for traffic not PR.
     
    ArticlePrince, Jan 14, 2010 IP
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    johagulo Peon

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    Yea that is a good option, but do not limit yourself
     
    johagulo, Jan 18, 2010 IP