Obama Approval Rating Falling!

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  1. worldman

    worldman Notable Member

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    #461
    You're damn right. This was all a power grab to transfer ownership of GM and Chrysler from the shareholders to the Unions.

    The only thing I'm concerned about is that Obama might push this country so far left that the next President might push this country so far right that we are having a country that is close to or being controlled by the church.

    You honestly think that Obama being Commander in Chief doesn't know where his planes are at all times. If that was the case, why did we have to "sue" the administration to get the cost of the flyover which is $300k?

    Still missing valuable info....

    And all his liberal buddies are going nuts. Obama is about to self destruct. There is no way he can please the American people and his socialist handelers at the same time. That's why I keep on saying Obama is just a puppet. Look at who is controling him...

    That is why he is printing so much money (3 trillion to be exact), so he can devalue the U.S dollar so much that the Chinese own most of the U.S.
     
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  2. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #462
    Right Wing is no longer what it used to be. Now it means church controlled theocracy, and neo-conservative rabble-babble.

    True Conservatism is no longer 'right wing' which is really just a code word for 'fascism-lite' like left-wing is 'socialism-lite'. A new term, a better term, would be 'freedom-wing' for where we need to go. Unrestricted civil liberties, capitalism, separations of government and all religious views, the true American Spirit of Rugged Individualism and making your own way, while also keeping in mind the national treasures we hold dear, like our forests, our wildlife, our monuments. We also need to get back into the groove of busting trusts that use illegal and bad business practices - monopolies are fine as long as they're not using illegal tactics. It's also time to take a look at the Austrian Economic Theories, and take a hard look at ourselves.

    But, this, this topic, this concern about Obama and about what he said or did or who is bitching about what, is really all a distraction and will be like Jerry Springer for Politics. It entertains and distracts and melts the mind into a puddle of mush. I only post to jar one or two people out of it, and let them step back and see how diluted everyone in America has become, how out of touch everyone is with the realities of this world.

    We need not a campaign for tax reform, for lighter rules, for less spending... we need a Campaign for Reality. One that accepts all American points of view but also has the mission to expand and show how trivial all this political bickering really is. Then progress can be made.

    Free the mind, then free the people.
     
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  3. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #463
    Yes, that is the definition we on the left have assigned to them. Truth be told, they have yet to redefine themselves, even if that definition is one from the Reagan era, or something entirely new. They are a faceless, formless mass and the only force that seems to be truly uniting them right now is the idea that what the Federal government is wrong.


    I find this quote full of conflict. Wouldn't unrestricted civil liberties and elimination of regulation allow unfettered use, abuse, and perhaps destruction of our natural resources including forests and wildlife? Dont we currently deam monopolys to be bad and illegal business practices? Do not monopolies free markets and regulations prevent monopolies? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for monopolies so long as they are run by the Federal government so we can be sure their goals are altruistic.


    Now there you have touched on something profound, though I'm not sure I agree the effects are deleterious. The goings on of our government have become a daytime drama, there is no doubt about it. You can pick your flavor of the drama and cheer for your protagonists, while throwing rotten food at your antagonists simply by changing the channel to a different media outlet which recasts the villains as heroes and the heroes as villains. Sure it isn't our grand parents "journalism". Hell, it isn't even our parents "journalism" which did exactly the same thing, only in a much more subtle fashion and without two sides to the story.

    The point is, it is entertaining and that means ratings and viewership. Coliseum entertainment where the feed Christians to lions is no longer acceptable, so something has to keep us entertained! I say, better this than Jerry Springer. You have to admit it got pretty old when the chick feigns surprise to find out on live TV that her husband is banging her sister and flies across the couch to gouge her sisters eyes out only to have bouncers in black t-shirts and head sets hold the two apart. In politics, the possible plot scenarios are endless. It is reality TV on steroids. I personally am really enjoying watching John Edwards saga, where he used his dying wife's cancer condition to prop up his political career, while secretly banging some other chick and embezzling campaign funds to keep her in clothing. Who can argue watching Blago go for various roles on reality TV shows isn't interesting?

    Why is all this good? Because it is real, and these people run our nation. It is causing people to pay attention to politics at a much younger age. How can that be bad?

    "I think he knows what Rome is. Rome is the mob. Conjure magic for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of Rome is not the marble of the senate, it's the sand of the coliseum. He'll bring them death - and they will love him for it."
     
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  4. worldman

    worldman Notable Member

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    #464
    I like you point of view.....where do you suggest we start? Botting Obama from Washington.....along with Pelosi and Prince Harry?
     
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    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #465
    No. There's no need for drastic impeachments by force or otherwise. What is needed is the beginning of a new majority that is educated and shown "the light" of the constitution. That it is not some out-dated document, and that religion should play no role in governance, as that interferes with the ideals of the foundation of this country. This country was founded to keep those two competing interests separated, so that governance would be efficient and free of any form of civil liberties desecration. The basic tenet of a true conservative is "who gives a ***" when it comes to someone's personal life, ideals, and behavior. As long as it does not interfere, stay out. We want the government out of our lives? Then we have to accept that we stay out of the lives of others. Jew, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Agnostic, Atheist, Pantheist, Satanist, what have you, you don't regulate, you don't tell them they cannot be what they want, and you cannot monitor them.

    This is the most fundamental right, the right to not be f**ked with. That means your lifestyle, your money, your property, and your speech. That right there is freedom.
     
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  6. Caesar1

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    #466
    I think both parties care more about thier special intrest then America as a whole.
     
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    #467
    This is what they want. Obama is part of it all, he's the man taking the heat :-D

    Didn't you see the Obama Deception>?:cool:
     
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  8. bogart

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    #468
    Chinese will be big losers if the dollar crashes. Already China is stockpiling metals like copper and buying euros. Failure to pay back all the money they have loaned the US could also provike them into military conflict with the US.
     
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  9. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #469
    I think that the only thing standing between President Obama and doing the right thing for the economy is Pelosi. And, he's taking care of her right now.

    Keep in mind one very crucial fact - while the President controls foreign policy, the Speaker of the House runs most of the economy. Read the Constitution. When it comes to domestic policy, the President is only a scapegoat. He isn't even authorized to change an interest rate.

    Every graph, every chart, every survey shows that the economy started to go bad when the Democrats took control of Congress in 2006.

    Read the Constitution. When it comes to Domestic affairs and the economy, the President can only do what Congress allows him to do.

    And the economy is 100% in the hands of the Speaker of the House. Read the Constitution!
    The 16th Amendment tells us that Congress, not the President, sets and collect income taxes. When it comes to any economy, any President is blameless. At best, be can try to influence the vote, but when you have a Speaker like Nancy Pelosi, President Obama's influence is realistically insignificant. At best, the President can suggest. He can't push any further without violating the Separation of Powers.

    Blaming ANY President for a bad economy, is like blaming Ronald MacDonald for a bad hamburger.
     
    Corwin, May 17, 2009 IP
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    #470
    Bush never really had the support of Congress during his terms as President.

    In 2005 the Democrats blocked a McCain led reform of Fannie Mae. The Democrats insisted that Fannie Mae continue to make risky mortagages while at the same time Congressional leaders like Barry Obama (D), Chris Dodd (D) and Barney Frank (D) reveived hundreds of thousands of dollars in contributions from the agency.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122212948811465427.html
     
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    #472
    Humm...I have very few dollars, but much more Euros....So I guess I'll buy Hershey's with a couple of thousands Euros ( soon to be 2 billions dollars )and finally make good chocolate for Americans...
     
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    #473
    It doesn't really work like that :D

    The average inflation has been around 3.5% per year. Using the rule of 70, it would normally take approximately 70/3.5 = 20 years for the value of the dollar to halve

    Once double digit inflation starts the time it takes for the currency to halve excelerates. Using the 13.5% inflation rate of 1980, it would take 70/13.5 = five years for the dollar to halve.

    Banks would be in great crisis. How do the banks make money when they are making fixed 30 tear mortgages @ 5%
     
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    #474
    Very good point, Bogart.
     
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    #475
    That's why we need to take back the educational institutions. They are what is shaping the future minds.

    Well that's the whole thing. Right now China is dictating to the U.S (under quiet) what they can and cannot do to a certain extent. Why is Hillary Clinton going over there telling them they should protect their interests?

    So that means no President is ever responsible for the economy? I guess you cannot blame Reagan for tripling the national dept or blame Bush for the mortgage crisis either.
     
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    #476
    Update: Obama is at 64% today. That is down a little bit from earlier in the month (when he hit 68%) but he has never fallen below 59% yet. Clearly none of the BS the right wing is throwing at him is sticking.

    I think he needs to be more worried about losing the excitement from the left. Many of us will be greatly disappointed, for example, with health care reform that does not include a public option. I would consider such health care "reform" to be a total failure and it may be enough to keep me from donating and campaigning for him next time around (although I'm sure I'd still have to vote for him... the Republicans are obviously not an option. And that's really the problem... I'm worried about Obama taking those of us on the left for granted because we have nowhere else to turn... but the thing is, it was our excitement, our donations, and our campaigning that powered the last campaign. He does need us for those reasons, even if he doesn't have to worry about our votes too much.)

    (NICE PARENTHESIS!)
     
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    #477
    Obama excitement = cult of Obama?

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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #479
    I wonder which poll you have been reading.....and Hiffington Post does not count.

    And the crowd went wild....:D

    Prepare for it to drop in the 20's and teens by summers end....
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #480
    I think it will remain rather consistent. Based on what I have read about 30-40% of the population is completely stupid. Assuming there is no change in the intelligence level of the modern day liberal/moonbat, they will keep following blindly into the abyss.
     
    Mia, May 18, 2009 IP