From Israel 2 Lebanon

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by mariush, Jul 20, 2006.

  1. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #121
    blogmaster, I have just one question to ask:

    The reason you're against muslims is because the quran is full of hate and calls for the death of non-believers right?

    Well as far as I know, the jewish religion follows the old testament, which is filled with hate literature, non-tolerance for any non-believers, death to everyone else, rape, slavery, etc. So unless you're nothing more than a giant hypocrit, you should also be voicing your dislike of jews :D
     
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  2. adpd

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    #122
    :D

    That is an interesting question you raise...
     
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  3. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #123
    Yes indeed... I can't wait to see his hypocritical answer/excuse for loving jews and hating muslims :D ;)
     
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  4. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #124
    Before you guys cum on yourselves rereading yo-yo's post, I'd like to have a logical reply to mine. One at a time, guys :)
     
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  5. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #125
    What's the matter? Can't answer the question can you? :)
     
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  6. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #126
    I believe I have asked mine first. One at a time, it's you guys' turn now ;)
     
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  7. hsaleem

    hsaleem Rocket!

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    #127
    Each one of them have got answer's.

    I have already said that understanding Qur'an in the context is the main thing. There are verses before and after the verses the owner of that website has mentioned

    I just bothered to read the first line and understood that this is the same thing that has been answered at International Forums and Communities so it is not difficult at all
     
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  8. adpd

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    #128
    Oh my... can't control it much longer... need to stop reading... ahhhhhh :eek:

    That's better... feel lighter on my feet now :p
     
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  9. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #129
    I'm not defending the quran nor do I like the quran. So you can go ahead and answer my question now. :)
     
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  10. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #130
    Can't we just agree that religion is BS and if less people got wrapped up in it the world would be a better place?
     
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  11. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #131
    Since Latehorn is blessing us with another post and we're all going to accept what that site says as fact I'd like to post some other quotes from it :)

    Other great articles on the site - since we're taking it all as fact I'm sure you'll all agree are,

    Why Hide The Coffins Mr Bush?

    Summary Of Bush's Presidancy
    Costs Of The Iraq War
    Heil Bush
    Dubya's Resume

    I'm glad we've found a factual source that we can all agree on :)

    Latehorn you tit, you really do have a habit of making an ass out of yourself don't you! :D
     
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  12. Blogmaster

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    #132
    I will, just waiting for an answer to my post right now. But in the meantime, how about this: show me the part in the Tora which calls Jews to fight non Jews so El Jahwe can punish them by their hands ;)
     
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    #133
    I think you're on pretty sticky gound, there's parts of the bible that I could dig up that aren't exactly preaching peace and love.

    It's all to do with interpretation, there are idiot Christians that interpret the bible as a ticket to kill and blow people up just as there are Muslims by the same token. The vast majority of people aren't like that though, Christians and Muslims. You wouldn't like to be classed the same as many extremeist Christians and the same goes for the majority of Muslims.

    Any extremeists, relighious or otherwise should be brought to justice.
     
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    #134
    Blogmaster do you know the verse from which that single line came from? If you do il be able to anwer your question cause like yo-yo im dying to see what you have to say about the Jewish religion in which the encyclopedia of Judaica says some really disturbing things
     
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    #135
    So I guess the answer is that there is no excuse anyone has for the verses in the Quran, correct?
     
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    #136
    No no excuse, I'm not defending it. I'm just saying that all religions are the same.
     
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  17. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #137
    I could quote hatred, intolerance, rape, murder and slavery from the bible all day long if that's what you really want ;)

     
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    guru-seo Peon

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    #138
    Tha apple does not fall far from the tree. The Israeli governent is a terrorist state not interested in diplomacy. They do, have done and continue to do target killings of people, without any consideration for loss of innocent human life. And who finances this terrorist governement? We do the US. So there you have it no wonder the whole world disslikes and dissaproves the US policies and our hipocritical stance on foreign affairs. Shame on Israel and shame on the US for standing by and letting innocent INNOCENT people be slaughtered.
     
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  19. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #139
    Here's some more gems :)

    Exodus 22:20 "He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed."

    Psalms 79:6: "Pour out thy wrath upon the heathen that have not known thee, and upon the kingdoms that have not called upon thy name."

    Deuteronomy 13:1-5 "If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them...And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death...So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee."

    Deuteronomy 13:6-10 "If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die..."

    Deuteronomy 13:12-15 "If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying, Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; Then shalt thou inquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you; Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword."

    Deuteronomy 17:2-5 "If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant, And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and inquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel: Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die."

    2 Chronicles 15:10-15 "So they gathered themselves together at Jerusalem...And they entered into a covenant to seek the LORD God of their fathers with all their heart and with all their soul; That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. [The LORD] was found of them: and the LORD gave them rest round about."
     
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    #140
    I have to quote the resume of the current president of the US, taken wholesale from the Ethical Atheist site:

    • I attacked and overtook two countries.
    • I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.
    • I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history.
    • I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.
    • I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market.
    • My record for environmental issues is the least of my concerns.
    • I am the first president in U.S. history to enter office with criminal record.
    • I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year period.
    • After taking-off the entire month of August, I then presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.
    • I am supporting development of a "Tactical Bunker Buster" nuke, a WMD.
    • I am getting our troops killed, under the lie of Saddam's procurement of Yellow Cake Nuke WMD components, then blaming the lie on our British friends.
    • I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S. president.
    • In my first year in office over 2-million Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues every month.
    • I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
    • I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any president in U.S. history.
    • I set the record for least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.
    • I signed more laws and executive orders effectively amending or ignoring the Constitution than any president in history (e.g. The Patriot Act).
    • I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.
    • I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history and refused to use national reserves as past presidents have done.
    • I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families -- in wartime.
    • I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people) shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.
    • I've dissolved more international treaties than any president in U.S. history.
    • I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in U.S. history. I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history.
    • My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.
    • I am the first president in U.S. history to have almost all 50 states of the Union simultaneously suffer massive financial crisis.
    • I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in history.
    • I am the first president in U.S. history to order a pre-emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
    • I created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
    • I set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in history.
    • I am the first president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.
    • I am the first president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Elections Monitoring Board.
    • I removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in U.S. S. history.
    • I rendered the entire United Nations viewpoints irrelevant.
    • I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.
    • I refused to allow inspectors access to U.S. "prisoners of war" (detainees) and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.
    • I am the first president in history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).
    • I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations.
    • My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation) presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. history.
    • My political party used the Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision.
    • I have spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in U.S. history.
    • I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the World Trade Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most resented country in the world, possibly the largest failure of diplomacy in World history.
    • I am actively working on a policy of "disengagement" creating the most hostile of Israel-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.
    • I am first president in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security.
    • I am the first U.S. president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the U.S. than by their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
    • I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
    • I set an all-time record for the number of administration appointees who violated U.S. law by not selling their huge personal investments in corporations bidding for U.S. contracts.
    • I failed to fulfill my pledge to capture Osama Bin Laden, dead or alive.
    • I failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the U.S. Capitol Building. Even after 18 months I have no leads and no credible suspects.
    • In the past 18 months following the World Trade Center attack I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.
    • I removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any president in U.S. history.
    • In a little over two years, I created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided since the Civil War.
    • I entered my office with the strongest economy in U.S. history and have turned every single economic category downward -- all in less than two years.

    :eek: :eek: :eek:
     
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