SCAMMER Slapped on the ASS!! Web Hosting Scammed me, I did it to him!!

Frankly, its pretty hard to feel sorry for anyone that gets scammed in the hosting area here at DP. It should seem fairly obvious who the shit bags are. Here's a few helpful clues to help those figure out when a host might be a bit shady.

1. Speaks Engrish!
2. Domain is 1 month old, or relatively new.
3. Offers outrageous claims.
4. Offers ridiculously crazy pricing, example: unlimited everything for $5 a year.
5. Is fairly new to DP, low post count, low rep, etc.
6. Accepts only PayPal as a form of payment.
7. Does not list their "physical" company address and phone number on their web site.
8. Claims to have their own servers yet does nothing more than resell hosting on some other companies server.
9. Name servers are via a FREE DNS service, or some other service not remotely related to their company.
10. WHOIS for their domain does not list a valid address, phone or email/name
11. WHOIS info for their domain is PRIVATE
12. uses a yahoo, google, hotmail, or aol email address

A lot of the people that get scammed here deserve it. When you are looking for that too good to be true cheap slummy service, that's what you are going to get.

 

12 tips of greatness lol

most people still won't get it though - they'll think you are talking BS and then when they get scammed they come crying.

and some people actually believe that $5/yr for unlimited space and bandwidth is the norm - I've gotten a few PMs/emails over the past half year or so where people claim that if we were as good as "the other host" we would lower our prices by 90% and increase our resource allocation by 500% (basically what they are saying)

and number 1, 11, and 12 are probably the best tips there.

+rep

 

NoVexHost is away from all those and i am promoting it here, so i am also out of that list... That should get me clients

 

Well done. I think RDAHosting was sold on dp recently.

 

Over selling is scam. Don't buy hosting from over sellers even if they charge 1 cent

Regards,
Monty
Limespace Networks

 

I agree with you
I think all people should first find out the history or reviews of a hosting company for which they are looking.

According to my opinions, those companies who use ONLY PAYPAL payment gateway are scam.
Everyone should find out "POSTAL ADDRESS" of company.

Most of the people do not look at these things and get scammed.

RDAHosting and Sameerhosting didn't post their Postal Address.
This states that they were running FAKE Business from their home.

In "Contact Us" page of their sites, they had given only e-mail ID and online chat service.

People should look at these particular aspects.

 

Any host that does NOT list their physical address and phone number has something to hide PERIOD.

Be wary of those that do not list the most basic of contact information, which is an actual mailing address and telephone number.

 

Agreed 100%

For this reason i've found it tough to even get any clients, even though I don't oversell or anything like that, these scamming idiots are putting honest webhosts out of business or forcing them to sell stupid unlimited plans for pennies.

I won't be forced out of business though, as they say patience is a virtue

 

What can you do you win some and you lose some. At the same time I don't think you did anything big in ters of "revenge"

 

I think all people should consider these things before buying any Hosting service on forum.
They should have a general knowledge of Overselling and other stuffs like DCMA.

How one can sell unlimited Disk space, bandwidth, and other facilities just for $3 to $5 a month
How its "Practically" possible ?
In such case, something is going wrong

 

Because there are still people on this forum who go and buy products for way less than they're worth thinking they got a good deal... You get what you pay for, and there is a difference between a reasonable fee and an overpriced fee.. You just have to know the market, and what you should be charged based upon various criteria. Such as region, locale, typical bandwidth/server pricing for a given area.

If some guy comes on selling reseller accounts at 1$ per month with unlimited disk space, unmetered transfer then says hes got a dual quad core with 16gb of memory and 100mbit pipe.. Well you can bet that, that server will be going offline, at minimum not really what he says it is, or is oversold so much that the server will be offline more than it is online.

Sales talk is really your biggest key. Look for people with proper grammar, good reviews, and most of all a logical business plan.

Here here! I might disagree with a few of these points, for instance, I only accept paypal currently, and dont give my address out simply because its my house. There's no shame in a home based business. I suppose I should pick up a PO box though, or would that still be fishy? Anyway, I think what the poster was saying is use logic, and review. I think your best bet in finding out if a host is a bad apple or not is to contact them on live support and see what their knowledge level is, and how friendly the staff are.

 

good for you bro , fight back!

 

He deserved it

 

Maybe, this "12 commandments" should be put sticky?

Oh, and I was thinking... It shouldnt be cool to create a "Code of Ethics" at the web hosting section, and, who accept and respect them, use a stamp in their posts and websites, so people know their are honest hosting providers? =)

Please tell me what you think about this

 

I started my business in the home. I used the home address then, yes. It legitimizes your business when you have an actual address. Yes, a PO would help, especially if it is tied to your corporate papers and listed as the corporate address, again, makes it look more legitimate.

Taking only paypal is fine, assuming you use their merchant account processing and accept all other forms of Credit Cards, the common ones anyway, like Visa/Mastercard. Again, this legitimizes your business. Anyone can sign up for a PP and just take the money and run. A real merchant account is not something that is easy to get.

 

You didn't have crazy clients who would go and lookup your home phone number (instead of the one you designated for your business) then call you at 3AM so they could ask you how to adjust an image on their web page properly? Or some other obscene menial question that could have been answered anywhere else (even by a simple google search) beside having to call you on your home phone at 3am?

I think i've had 3 or 4 of those by now. (And no, those specific clients werent in another time zone)

Maybe I just don't have enough faith in people.. I guess ill go get a pobox this week!

 

I think they should also provide the service of Cheques / DDs
or bank transfer or Western Union Transfer

 

pretty cool

 

Of course I did, and I answered their questions. Those first few years I worked 7 days a week, 18 hours a day. It was hard, but it paid off. That's part of doing business.

That'll happen.... Again, its part of being in business. Take the good with the bad.