I already said, I'm with you. If I want to take my dog as my spouse and make him the sole heir to my fortune, as well as the beneficiary of my life insurance, that's my choice, and people should not try and oppress me in my ambitions. I leave the confusion to you, but thanks anyway.
Don't think there is much to gained from discussion with someone who thinks his dog is a "consenting adult". And even less to be gained from a discussion with someone who equates homosexuality with bestiality.
Now now. Don't go straw man on me. I never claimed my dog was a consenting adult. I also didn't equate homosexuality to bestiality, though you gave the green light for legal recognition of polygamist marriages. One thing I think we can both agree, there are no more "non-consenting" adults in a relationship of bestiality than there are in one of heterosexuality... unless you are trying to imply the dog is a non-consenting adult. Your dog turned you down? Personally, I don't think there is much to be gained from a discussion with someone who is incapable of using a dictionary, but I still chat with you.
Do you think working on the Sabbath should be illegal? Because according to the "wisdom of God" that is against the ten commandments. It's hard to take people seriously who think we should make laws based on one sentence in the bible but then ignore other sentences. The bible is filled with contradictions - so how could it possibly be used as a guidebook for our laws in this country? (even if that was desirable in the first place, which it isn't of course.)
Ah so you were just deliberately ignoring the fact that i have repeated use the phrase "consenting adults" in order to make some facile point about you marrying your dog... yeah that sounds like you. when you can't think of an argument, just ignore everything that the person has said and make some shit up.
Ahhh, so the right to protect yourself and your family should be removed? As well as the right to protect yourself from an oppressive government? I know, they're scary. But, maybe one day when you are faced with a situation where you would need to protect yourself from loosing life, limb, or eyesight, you'll rethink that lack of thought. Without the second you can not have any others
Heres an easy one for you. If I'm f#$ing my dog, does that relationship involve any human adults who are not consenting? No. So let me poozle my poodle and let me live my life how I see fit. I am also going to make my dog the sole benefactor of my life insurance policy and sole heir to my estate. What could possibly be wrong with that? Am I putting anyone out?
well when you have sex with your dog it isn't an act involving consenting adults because, well, your dog isn't a consenting adult. let me know if you need this simple fact explained to you in more detail.
Ok. In this example. I would be the consenting adult. As my dog is not a person, he doesn't fit into anyone else. So answer the question. Would you be opposed to legislation allowing me to marry my dog? Your hinting that you may in fact be opposed to it, so if you are, pllease explain why.
I'd be against it for two reasons. 1) your dog isn't a consenting adult and i clearly stated that my support was for the rights of consenting adults to do whatever they want together and 2) because marrying someone is a legal contract and your dog hasn't the capacity to enter in to a legally binding contract. Your point is as facile as someone supporting the equal rights of people to apply for driving licences and you asking them if your dog should be able to drive a car. anyone else astonished that someone needs this explained to them?
So you are in favor of things adults want to do together, but against things they want to do by themselves or with their pets? Care to explain this? That is your definition of marriage. You are starting to sound like those opposed to gay marriage. If I have a close relationship with my dog, like so many people do, and both the dog and I enjoy the relationship, and we aren't impacting anyone else, what do you care what we do in the privacy of our own home, or in the eyes of the court? What gives you the right to deny me what makes me happy? If my dog could drive, he should be allowed to apply for a license. That, of course, is entirely beside the point, not only because my dog can't drive, but because I never made such an idiotic argument. Nothing is being demanded of the animal other than to give me love, and take mine, of course. I do find it interesting you brought up the privilege of driving. Given that driving is a prerequisite to gainful employment in most places, and gainful employment is a basic premise of the pursuit of happiness, shouldn't it really be the "Right to Drive"?
They can do what they want by themselves. But i don't see how you can find justification for animal abuse from what i have said. You really are clutching at straws here, Desperately trying to find just one more thing to misunderstand, one more way to misinterpret. because your dog isn't a consenting adult and my argument is in defence of consenting adults and what they are allowed to do with, to, at and on each other, by themselves or with inanimate object. But hey, it sounds like you really do want to have sex with animals, so I'd say just try not to get caught. lmao you have become a parody of yourself. What an absolutely insane thing to say.
So then you support the lifestyle so long you don't have to legally acknowledge the relationship? Jesus, you sound just like them. Now my lifestyle is animal abuse? I suppose you find sodomy to be human abuse? I see. So as long as things fit your narrowly defined definition, its ok, otherwise its not. Regarding Dogs and Drivers licenses, you brought it up, not me. Its obviously a stupid argument because dogs cant drive. If dogs could drive, I'd stay at home all day arguing with people like you while my dog ran to the store to get beer. Something else for you to ponder. Even if you find my dog example extreme, polygamy is also considered illegal at the moment, and the majority of Democrats would prefer to keep it that way. What you have tried to spin into an anti-religious hate thread (as usual) is a battle over the word "marriage" that many homosexuals don't think should apply, and many religious people don't care if it does apply.
I don't even know what you are talking about here. If you are having sex with animals then yes you are abusing animals. No, homosexuality isn't human abuse because it's between two or more consenting adults. Tell me how many times i have to explain this to you. Yes i did bring it up, expecting you to say that dogs shouldn't be given driving licenses. But when you said they should be issued licenses, if they can drive, well, my head nearly fell off from laughter. I think we have a new official "most ridiculous thing anyone has ever been forced to say" record holder. I find your dog example irrelevant because, like i have said countless times, my defence is of the rights of consenting adults. I really don't know how many times you need this simple point explained to you. I have used as simple language as i can to save you from confusion, and i refuse to lower myself to drawing you a picture in thick crayon. Are there any specialist techniques that people use to get you to understand simple concepts?
stOx : I am just interested do you support duel too between two or more consenting adults ? (Sorry for off topic guys)
Yes i support their right to do it. I don't see on what grounds i could be opposed to something which two consenting adults want to do which doesn't effect me or anyone else who hasn't agreed to participate, regardless what it is.
Familiar feeling for you I'm sure. Its ok stOx, I have a lot of t time and patience. I'll keep at it until you get it. Yes. I've been using them, but you keep "eating the cards". You see, when one cant start with the use of a dictionary as the acknowledged starting point for the descriptions of words, words loose all their meaning, and so does discussion, argument, and reason. For instance, I could say: White may be the presence of all color, black the absence of all color, but my favorite color is blue. You may answer: White includes all other colors, therefore your favorite color is actually white. I could say: It is a lovely day outside. To which you might answer: So you admit flowers have a special scent that makes some people crazy! I find it very entertaining, so I'll leave you with this thought. "Flying donkey penises help to mulch the garbage produced by inactive minds." There. Refute that!
You are just incoherently ranting now. Come back when you can actually refute the points i have made.
You didn't read my post? Refute what I said!!!! BTW, when you make some points, I will be happy to refute them