"I'll Pray For You"

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by stOx, May 8, 2009.

  1. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #21
    Your inability to read is shining through again.
    How someone can so badly misunderstand such a simple quote is beyond me.
     
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    #22
    So i was right when i said the religious don't claim that their god is statistically unlikely.. yet you still felt the need to try to refute it on the grounds that i can't speak for the religious.
     
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    #23
    Keep at it , you'll get it. Repetition is the key. If there is some part of that sentence you'd like clarification on, just ask. A hint: though I mentioned statistics, it has little to do with math.
     
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    #24
    Ok, let's simplify this. Do you think the religious believe their god is statistically unlikely? Yes or no?
     
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    #25
    The answer is in my quote, but the answer is No. You should really focus on the words "religious believe that their prayers being answered in the way they want is statistically unlikely"

    You'll notice those words don't contain the word god. Like I said, keep at it. Read it again. Study it. You'll get it.
     
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    #26
    So when you said it was "presumptuous" of me to claim the very thing you now admit to be true you were, what? trying to refute something you actually agreed with? What a strange way to debate. Or is it just the downfall of being contrary?

    I now see why you are inherently reluctant to answer questions.
     
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    #27
    Dude, put down the crack pipe and step away. Your giving the mentally challenged a bad name.
     
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    #28
    Answer it. Were you trying to refute something you actually agreed with? if so, why?
     
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    #29
    I'll answer it when you can answer this. Which came first... chicken, or egg. Your circular logic is entertaining.
     
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    #30
    the egg. Simple biology.

    now answer my question.
     
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    #31
    Where did the egg come from? Did it just appear?
     
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    #32
    I had a feeling i would have to explain this to you. Birds evolved from reptiles, reptiles lay eggs.

    Still feeling that evading questions is less detrimental to your argument than answering them? certainly casts doubt on the validity of your argument.
     
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    #33
    Weren't we talking about chickens, not reptiles?
     
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    #34
    Do I have to walk you through it? If birds evolved from an egg laying organism (a reptile) and then chickens evolved from an earlier bird the first organism that could be called a "chicken" would have come from an egg. ergo, the egg came first.

    I don't have a copy of "basic biology for the under 5's", But id strongly suggest you look for a copy.
     
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    #35
    Wow stOx, thats great! You've worked out the answer to a question philosophers have agonized over for centuries. I'd nominate you for the Nobel peace prize, but I don't think they'd accept the nomination! How come it is you can answer questions that have gone so long without an answer, yet you can't follow the basic logic flow of a a conversation?

    I say the religious are not confident their prayers will be answered in the way they want them answered, and you somehow translate that to mean the religious feel the existence of their god is statistically improbable. I repeat the post so that perhaps with repetitive reading you might gain comprehension, and you make the leap to say I agree with you. Perhaps I've misjudged you. Perhaps you aren't the dumbest guy in the room, just blinded by ideology.
     
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    #36
    thank you . We all need to pray for this world, We are misbehaving a lot. God deserve at least that from us in order he can release us for more bad things.
     
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    #37
    Way to read the thread.
     
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    #38
    The question hasn't gone so long without an answer, You just didn't know the answer. That's hardly my fault and, frankly, knowing something that you don't isn't grounds for a nobel prize.

    Well the christians have a book which they believe their god wrote. You might have heard of it, it's called the bible. and in this "bible" their god explicitly states that ALL prayers will be answered with the smallest of faith. If i recall correctly the person only needs to have the faith of a mustard seed.

    So if they aren't confident that their prayers will be answered they are either a) admitting that they don't actually have faith, b) that their god is a liar or c) that this book is just a made of piece of fiction.
     
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    #39
    Not one for subtle humor I take it. I'll stick to knock knock jokes. Sorry.



    Interesting. Care to provide a quote with scripture and verse?

    Are you sure those are the only plausible explanations? Doesn't that argument rely on a variety of assumptions that could easily be false, such as:

    a) The particular segment of Christianity doesn't believe that every prayer is answered (95% of all Christians I believe)

    b) They believe the answers to their prayers don't come by god directly talking to them.

    c) They believe the answers to their prayers aren't always in the affirmative (I prayed for a new car and didn't get one.. the answer was no)

    No no, I suppose your conclusions are the only possible conclusions and one should have to select one of them.:rolleyes: Atheists are Agnostics, the sky is white, and science proves there is no god. Cary on!

    P.S. I'll pray for you and see what happens.
     
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    #40
    I take it your subtle humor is sarcasm, the lowest form of wit. or you could be just pretending it was humour after asking a facile question which was easily answered.

    Matthew 17:20 says, "I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.

    I challenge any christian claiming to have faith to test this biblical claim.


    Folks need to read their bible then.

    But they would think god hears them, it's a fact of being omniscient, and if Matthew is to be believed "nothing is impossible" for someone who has the faith of a mustard seed. So what kind of "christians" are these? Christians who disbelieve in the bible?

    Well that's just a cop out. I could pray to a jug of milk and claim that the answer was no when nothing happened.
     
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