Guardian investigation uncovers evidence of Israeli war crimes in Gaza

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  1. imad

    imad Peon

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    #41
    what is the source for this quote?

    are you enjoying taking advantage of some Westerners who do not have much info about the history of the conflict? if so, I am sorry to ruin your joy,

    because... you only said a myth, below you will find why it is a myth, I challenge you to refute it..

    Arabs where against the UN partition plan, which is known to all, as Jews been against previous UN plans, still Arabs respected the plan, and did not attack any area that was allocated to Jews, on the other hand Zionist gangs attacked lands more than were allocated to them in UN partition plan, even before the UN resolution to recognize Israel, which made Arabian armies attack these areas to free them.


     
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  2. Danielregwan

    Danielregwan Well-Known Member

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    #42
    Sources:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab-Israeli_War
    http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/israel_and_the_1948_war.htm
    http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/history/A0856666.html

    and millions of other sources! :) but i guess all this sources are wrong right?
    only the muslim sources are correct, and the earth is flat as well..

    the arabs are nothing more then warmongers, they lost any right they had when they turned to bloodshed but i guess this is second nature for them because they believe in Islam. btw Imad I noticed you like quoting sources but you never give a URL to the source.. ?


    just another peaceful demo for the pallys!
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    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com :cool:
     
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  3. gauharjk

    gauharjk Notable Member

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    #43
    The worst bloodshed in history was carried out
    1. First World War between European powers
    2. Second World War between Europe, North America, Asia
    3. Pol Pot of Cambodia
    4. Mao of China
    5. Stalin of Russia

    Could you link to any massacres that Arabs participated in? I can link to one that was carried out against the Arabs. It was done in 1948 when Israel was created in the heart of Arabia, and hundreds of thousands of people were driven from their homes. Even today, there are millions of Palestinian refugees around the world, and they make up the world's largest refugee population.

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    Its a pity you don't read history...

    http://www.thestruggle.org/

    You are Islamophobic. But unlike you, I have no issues with other people's religion. And I don't defile them.
     
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  4. Danielregwan

    Danielregwan Well-Known Member

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    #44
    I don't see the point of posting such imagery ?

    The purpose of my image was to show that you guys are violent in nature, and you on the other hand thought you are hurting me because a group of jews peacefully demonstrate against Israel? thank you very much for proving my point please do not remove the pictures after reading that.

    now for your pleasure let me post how violent Muslims demonstrate:

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    very peaceful people, just like there friends from Gaza :)
     
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  5. imad

    imad Peon

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    #45
    the sources I inclued in my post are Zionist, its already mentioned there if you read it ;) in my posts I always include a URL, but I noticed that you did not include a URL in your post for the quote you had,

    for wikipedia, I m still amazed how can some use it as a source when the co-founder himself said:

    check previous posts in this thread to save us from repeating over again.
     
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  6. Danielregwan

    Danielregwan Well-Known Member

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    #46
    i dont see it, please highlight it for me
     
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  7. imad

    imad Peon

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    #47
    of course you won't see it when you do not read the post, but here it is anyway highlighted:

    need a link?

    http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Palmach_-_History/id/5363332

    you also can do a search for each of the mentioned operations, and find their date, and the area in which each happened, so it ain't hard really to do your home work if you are really interested in knowing more about it, but it seems you are too lazy?

    and my challenge is still valid, prove that any of these facts mentioned in the above is wrong.

    more from Israeli sources:


    source


    need more?
     
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  8. Danielregwan

    Danielregwan Well-Known Member

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  9. imad

    imad Peon

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    #49
    lol, so now Ilan Pappe the very known Israeli historian and Palmach (Haganah's strike force) History is Pollywood, just because Danielregwan does not know them, how can you comment then in such threads if you do not know them?

    how about these??


    source: pp. 131-132 Understanding Power: The Indispensable Chomsky

    p95 Fateful Triangle The United States, Israel, and the Palestinians

    The Gun and the Olive Branch: The Roots of Violence in the Middle East, London: Faber and Faber, 1977, pp. 123-143. An excerpt (pp. 136, 138-139, 142)

    The Birth of Israel: Myths and Realities, New York: Pantheon, 1987, pp. 81-118. An excerpt (pp. 42, 83-84, 132)

    Jon Kimche, Seven Fallen Pillars: The Middle East, 1945-1952
     
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  10. Danielregwan

    Danielregwan Well-Known Member

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    #50
    well known? well known to Muslims maybe ;)


    check this out much better! Palestinians are lying to the world media:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_B1H-1opys&feature=related
     
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  11. imad

    imad Peon

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    #51
    I already checked it in the previous 2 posts you made about "Pollywood" and it makes me wonder since journalists can reveal such basic "Pollywood" why would Israel always ban journalists?

    if you checked the video I posted earlier you might know the answer already.
     
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  12. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #52
    Then lets ask US take a step back and not support israel terrorist military acts by arms. If US doesnt want to be involved in this crap.
     
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  13. gauharjk

    gauharjk Notable Member

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    #53
    danielregman is just a stupid troll. Its useless discussing anything with him.
     
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  14. Realm

    Realm Well-Known Member

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    #54
    look guys...they don't like to hear what you tell them...so I guess their is no point in telling them again and again and again....which it means, that they don't like to hear the truth but only whatever they like hearing and sounds good to them

    its a waste of time! As much source as you provide, they always will try and deny them. That's how it is, and that is how it is going to be
     
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  15. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #55
    Actually that would be a request for the U.S. to take action against Israel, in favor of the maniacs you support. I'm afraid status quo is the best you are going to get. Besides, as I stated earlier, Israel has enough weaponry to bury its neighbors about 10 times over without the U.S. sending anything else over there.

    Here is a clue you should be able to get. Restore the democracy in Palestine, acknowledge Israel's right to exist, and express a genuine interest in coexisting without violent terrorist attacks. You might be surprised at how much support the U.S. would be willing to send your way. Sending more pictures of the "atrocities" committed by Jews while your band of misfits continues terrorist operations gives your outcry as much credibility as it would if it came from Joseph Goebbels.
     
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  16. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #56
    israeli politicians are criminals , and terrorists . Hamas has been elected by democratic way.
    No it doesnt mean to take action against israel. just step out , If israel has enaugh weaponry why US supporting israel by military arms ? dont support israel and dont support Palestine, if you really not interested in this crap.
     
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  17. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #57
    Most politicians are. Hamas politicians have the added benefit of actually having personal experience killing people.

    Now there you've touched on something profound. Your people elected representation that denies Israels right to exist. ELECTED. Translation: The majority of your civilians don't think Israel has the right to exist. If I ran Israel, I'd be busy killing as many of you as possible. The stupidity of Israel trying to negotiate a lasting peace with people who fundamentally don't believe Israel has a right to exist is laughable. Israel and the Palestinians shouldn't be trying to reach a peace agreement. They should commit to a full scale war. It won't be until enough of your citizens have been slaughtered in a truly horrific manner that your people will desire a peace, regardless of whether Israel exists or not. The longer the world pushes for some "peace accord", the longer this ugly conflict is going to drag out.

    You, like the rest of Palestine, realize the foregone outcome would leave you with a permanent loss so you go whining to the world press about "war crimes" and "apartheid", hoping to win some victory in the court of public opinion, all the while refusing to acknowledge Israel's right to exist. Its moments like this that i can acknowledge the true genius of our President. Letting Iran get the atomic weapons and make a major strike against Israel, something your folks will be unwilling and unable to do for the foreseeable future, will let Israel finally settle this problem on its own, once and for all.

    Cutting off Israel from it's weapon supply is not taking action against them? Here's something else you need to keep in mind. Much of the world is not real thrilled with a lot of Israel's behavior. You know your Palestinian "government" is a looser when, as bad as the world may see Israel's actions, they would still prefer to have Israel around than have the maniac's you support, and its not even a close decision. Yeh, the weapons will continue to flow to Israel.
     
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  18. xtremeskill

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    #58
    thats the price Palestinians paid for their hospitality ,guests became owners of house ;)
     
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    #59

    such images are heavily photoshoped ...i can prove if somebody wanna see
     
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  20. gauharjk

    gauharjk Notable Member

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    #60
    Those images most probably are real IMO.
     
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