I know this subject has been discussed before at length but never really gets a definitive outcome! One thing I have noticed with one of my competitors is that their domain, which is probably the best name in the field has virtually #1 domination for the specific keywords. I can only think that this is down, primarily, to their domain name. That said, following a LOT of seo on my site we have managed to take #1 spot from the competitor for a couple of keywords. It is becoming frustrating to knock them off top spot for the remaining 100+ keywords that they are still #1 for. I have been thinking about registering a domain with the relevant keywords in it and redirecting to my main site in the hope that this will have some effect/impact on SERPS! The domain would look like www.xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx.com Is this a step too far? And what about those - ? In Google searching for 2 distinct keywords xxxxx xxxxx their domain is highlighted in the results as www.[B]xxxxxxxxxx[/B].com Seems that Google is able to make a distinction between a joined domain name?!?! (two words as one in a domain name). Your thoughts would be appreciated
Your post is not clear ... what you wanted to ask Google most of the time make distinction between two joined keywords? YES
You don't need to confuse yourself so much.Yes, use a domain name that has - . GoOgle will also highlight it. But don't forget, only the domain name isn't enough,lots of more factors to take into thought.
There is extensive research to show that google does NOT view www.keywordkeyword as two seperate keywords, if you want that, you will have to put a dash between them.
Ok, so what if you want to target a phrase and you go www.keyword-phrase .com or www.keywordphrase .com ? Based on what you say if you want to target a phrase you cannot use www.keyword-phrase .com, am I understanding it right ? stojan
try to put two words into google... eg. "love" and "cars" in the serps you will find the domain names highlighted which contain those words even if they are: lovecars.com or ilovecars.com google is smart not dumb...
http://www.internet-marketing-blog.com/2006/03/10/parsing-keywords-in-urls/ Please don't act as if you know what you are talking about when you don't. No, the opposite. Say your phrase is 'Utah Muscle Cars'. www.utah-muscle-cars.com is a better domain than www.utahmusclecars.com . But I wouldn't stress out over it to much; there are far more important factors to consider. Every little bit counts though!
ok you know everything... open up your mind and look... lol google BOLDS words it recognizes when you search in the SERPS... try a few searches instead of depending on some kid that runs a blog searching for sexdogs??... lol I didnt finish a Ph.D for nothing... from some more clever people at webmasterworld for those unbelievers... http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum25/3648.htm stick to your twenty hyphenated word domains it'll take some competition away from sites you can actually remember (and are parsed the same by google haha).
for me: i think if you're targeting a kw phrase, *better to sparate it with a dash. for xxxxxxxxxxxxx.com and xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx.com can be deemed differently by google since the former url can be denoted as one whole word, the latter, of course, is denoted as 2 words. i guess your competitor may have targeted the keywords better than you do. but, anyhow, it's not just the keyword url that matters most. check other elements that you need to improve. kw urls are just a tad matter. one more thing, it'll more customer friendly to devise a URL name that is easily comprehended by people yet very very catchy. take google.com or ebay.com as an example perhaps? in other words, proper branding and content relevancy will do. then SEO follows a close second.
What has this got to do with parsing the keywords in the url and indexing on them? Highlighting text is not the same as indexing. The facts are: Google indexes on keywords in hyphenated urls but not on keywords in underscored or conjoined urls. Yahoo indexes on keywords in hyphenated and underscored urls but not keywords in conjoined urls. MSN indexes on some keywords in hyphenated, underscored and conjoined urls. I wrote this up in Keywords in urls and URLs (Update) Are you sure.....? Looks as if they have got it wrong as well. - Michael
And still no real conclusion! Your facts on Google are WRONG! Google DOES identify conjoined URLs! If it didnt then why would it highlight, to use previous examples, ilovecars.com when the search phrase is "love" "cars"? There doesnt seem to be too many instances of xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx.com when searching for keywords or phrases in Google which is why I asked the question. As far as having to remember a specific URL, who cares when most people simply search for phrases.
Because highlighting text is not the same as indexing text. Just take a few minutes to read carefully the links I gave above and you may understand. If you remain confused then try taking some centrophenoxine or other cognitive enhancing drug. - Michael
Having read your blog on the subject I still do not see how Google manages to highlight conjoined URLs unless it is able to differneciate between the keywords searched! And that is after following your advice and taking centrophenoxine or other cognitive enhancing drug.
Open up your mind and READ. Michael and I both gave you plenty of reading material. Ugh. Please. READ. The highlighting of words has NOTHING to do with it considering them to be seperate. http://www.internet-marketing-blog.com/2006/03/10/parsing-keywords-in-urls/ That explains it perfectly. And no, molecule_man, I don't believe you have a PhD 'lol'
Ok you have the Ph.D as studying Paris hilton sex dog really makes you a doctorate.... he never asked about INDEXING geniuses... read his original post: "In Google searching for 2 distinct keywords xxxxx xxxxx their domain is highlighted in the results as www.xxxxxxxxxx.com Seems that Google is able to make a distinction between a joined domain name?!?! (two words as one in a domain name). Your thoughts would be appreciated" duhh... if you don't know the question nor the topic stick to public school and video games and no I won't waste time reading the junk you people post on the net as "experiments" and "conclusive proofs" I really dont care if you think I have a Ph.D, all I need is the certificate on the wall and my skills. Stick to analyzing Paris hilton.. Ph.D's are the ones that setup Google and are engineering it now, not kids analyzing Paris Hilton sex dogs... lol
yeah they are trying to save their "hypothesis" and "conclusive" proofs when it really stinks and has no proofs nor evidence.... let them clutch every bit to the toilet paper quality thesis they have setup... lol I guess every little kid and crack addict from the street can make a blog and pretend to be a professional SEO... even professional SEOs have little info on what is going on in google... unless they were working previously (or currently) at google... yet we should believe what these professionals with a blog say! (anyone can make a blog, anyone can call themselves professional SEOs on the net....your "study" speaks for itself) More on this domain keyword parsing from Webmaster Forums
Er... what? Alright, I'm out of here. "Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
Now, now boys (ormaybe girls?). But you are right Moleculeman the question wasnt about indexing. Google obviously recognises 2 seperate words and is able to pick out (highlight) those two seperate words in a conjoined URL. It was only a question!! Looks like this subject wont get answered.............. Again!