Is "Demon Bush" a new religion?

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  1. latehorn

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    #21
    Why not give the educated people jobs for educated and give the easier jobs to the immigrants?
     
    latehorn, May 26, 2006 IP
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    #22
    I hope you know that China as a worldleader will change this world totally.
     
    latehorn, May 26, 2006 IP
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    #23
    Because you can't haphazardly massively immigrate people and expect all that to work out right for the tax payers, poor, or social existence of America.
     
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    #24
    So what are you going to do to stop them? You think you can stop a building infrastrature and a culture that is saturated with high IQ's...? As long as
    their government eases control over, China will be a leader...we can only hope for the best.

    We can't make our goals against Chinese growth just because we don't want them to be an economic power. The more we can influence a rational governtment upon us the better. It won't help if we become a socialists voting
    country.
     
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  5. latehorn

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    #25
    To turn this question around. Would China become a world leader if they had the same population as you and the same GDP per capita as they have now?
     
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    #26
    Kill em?

    This is hypothetical, and would be a pure guess. The Chinese culture spells
    intellectual advancement...all they need was an open door to trade. Would
    the path be exactly the same.....close. Most of their workers are farmers...look below.


    You have this fixation on cheap labor as though that's the end-all and be able of an economy. The costs we pay in taxes (for jails, schools, medical,) just means we're subdizing or redistrubuting wealth for the benefit of a few owners/consumers here and there...pennies on the dollar savings. Ohh,NO!

    Technology, not labor is the answer to this.

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    Although you must know that the vast majority of people don't live in the cities and don't really involve themselves with business world.

    China
    agriculture: 49%
    industry: 22%
    services: 29% (2003 est.)

    of a labor force of 791.4 million (2005 est.). 387 million in industry and
    service. Then you have to regard that there's still a great deal of them
    in government jobs, which is slowly fading away. 30% of their industry
    is still owned by the state. These companies in most cases are non-
    competitive and dying away.

    We roughly have 149 million, with nearly no one in farming. Wow, 200 million more competiting laborers...ohhh, no.
     
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    #27
    As you see, China has way easier to output growth. If they clone all technology achievments you make and keep transfering farmers into industry jobs, their growth will be way over yours. Technology is one card on the hand but the problem is that everyone can easily get it. Companies that outsource can implement the same technology as they had in US in China. Give me a reason why they should stay in US just because they can improve the technology at home? Hence, they can do the same in China or India or any country. The labour force will still be cheaper.

    Technology is like myspace sites, it gets cloned and copied. It's not a fixed property.
     
    latehorn, May 28, 2006 IP
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    #29
    what was Chinas economy 20 years ago? What did that have that the Western didn't? Cheap labour both high and low educated. That have been the resulting factor for having a GDP rise of 9% a year. We in west are already moneyfat. That's why we need to produce more labour to stop the wages from rising. Chinas economy would not die if we would keep up in the same tempo. To achieve more longterm growth than China, the only way is to improve the education system and produce more babies/labour. Lower taxes, technology, less beurocracy gives short-term input that is needed as well. China can keep their 9% a year growth. We should AIM for 10%+. This will ofcource take time. Still, we aren't killing Chinas economy.
     
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    #30
    Rick, create a new thread for your opinion. I don't think the issue have to be discussed here. We agree many times otherwise. And I think that immigrants creates a lot problems etc.

    Back to the point

    That pretty much sums it up. The logic of those people breaks many natural laws.
     
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    #31
    Either way, it's a subjective response, so there is no real conundrum.

    Laterhorn, I didn't think you were even from the US???
     
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    #32
    Whatever your opinion is about Bush, it doesn't change the fact the demon-Bush is a new religion that some people tries to seek comfort in. It's obvious and I have pointed it out. It carries all characters of a religion.

    btw.. Here's your priest ;)
     
    latehorn, Jul 19, 2006 IP
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    #33
    I'm not sure if you are joking around or serious on this, either way you have to much time on your hands. You never answered me if you are from the US either...
     
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    #34
    I'm not joking, I promisse. I am dead serious. Demon-Bush is a religion.

    Personally, I'm not from US, but I have family ties to US.

    btw.. nice bump ;)
     
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    #35
    ouch, didn't see the date, sorry all for the bump... Just me maybe, this doesn't seem that funny...
     
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    #36
    It's not more fun than wahhabbism, although these religions share many opinions.
     
    latehorn, Jul 20, 2006 IP