When was this world created?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by websiteideas, May 29, 2006.

  1. TommyD

    TommyD Peon

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    #141
    No you don't, just spend a few hours a day for the next few years thinking about it...

    if you dare!!!!!!

    tom
     
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  2. Person

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    #142
    No, I sort of need to know why you think giraffes having less neck bones invalidates evolution.
     
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  3. joelviztech

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    #143
    The Bible directly states that to be a Christian, you must believe that EVERY WORD OF IT IS LITERALLY TRUE. It has no tolerance for the tortured logical twistings of modern day Christians trying to reconcile science and evolution with Christianity.

    Why am I debating with you again?

    This is a problem since the majority of America, including the President, seems to be brainwashed by the same garbage. Half of the rest of the world (islam), also believe some ridiculous ideas on the order of Santa and Batman and are prepared to die for them. Religion will be the cause of the next global war.

    This is exactly why religion exists. Most people are horrified by this concept and must force themselves to try to believe something that logically makes no sense. But I am here to tell you (as a former Christian), the precipice you see before doesn't really exist and when you stop believing in illogical crap, a beautiful new world opens up. Please give your brain and life a chance.
     
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  4. TommyD

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    #144
    Why are you off your meds again? Stop dragging me into your posts.

    :p
     
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  5. GeorgeB.

    GeorgeB. Notable Member

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    #145
    Exaclty.

    Deep down, they know it makes no sense but because their parents and their parents before them were raised to "just believe" and not ask why it's tough to open their minds to anything else. When you wake up from the fairlytale and realize there is no heaven waiting for you when you die it actually makes you appreciate life more.

    You know what absolutely astounds me? When christians scoff at other religions like muslims for believeing in what they believe in and being willing to die for it with no questions asked. They call them nuts. They're crazy to "just believe" Allah will welcome them into his bossom if they blow themselves up or that it's OK to kill anyone who doesn't believe. What the heck are they thinking? There's no such thing as Allah.... right?

    Take a look in the mirror....
     
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  6. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #146
    Some of us actually know Jesus, so it isn't a question of just hoping, etc.. When you know a little bit about God, you know that the god of islam is not the same god, actually more towards satan worship by killing people thinking they are going to heaven and meeting up with some virgins.

    Sorry you can't comprehend, but I will say that I am totally into science and the study of life, but when it is a theory don't bet your life on it. Theories evolve or completely change with more evidence, but if you are a scientist you know that you have to try not to force evidence to prove your theory but rather use the evidence to support or change your theory.
     
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  7. GeorgeB.

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    #147
    Because there is solid proof that God exists right....
    I could base my entire reply on how ridiculous that statement is but I won't waste my time. Blind faith won't even allow you to see how illogical that sounds.

    I can't stop laughing... did you really try to start talking theories and proof in a discussion about a mystical being that created the heavens and earth and parted the seas? Did you really just do that? A being who's entire existance is based on a book that even great biblical scholars will admit is flawed? You don't find it odd that the only miracles that are bonafied in your face events that ever took place are only in a story book?

    Oh and P.S., thanks for proving my point. Everyone who doesn't believe what you believe is a satan worshipper.

    I don't offer you theories my friend. I say prove yours is a fact.

    Oh that's right, you don't need proof. You "just believe"... Right? That's what you were going to say weren't you? I know it is. All christians say that when you hit them with facts.
     
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  8. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #148
    Bwahahahahahahahah!!! :D :D

    George.. your last two posts in this thread have been incredible - My thoughts exactly.. put into words perfectly!
     
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  9. debunked

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    #149

    Boy did you read something into it that I didn't say or mean. You may want to go and take an English class. LOL

    You crossed what I said about science with my beliefs when I didn't cross the two in my statements, so that kind of makes you look dumb.

    Then you try to make it look like I said everyone is a satan worshipper when I only referred to the Islamic belief, but why am I explaining this to you, when your hatred towards Christians blinds you and your ability to even read a simple paragraph. Sorry to have confused you with so many words george.

    BTW, should I assume by your reply that the act of killing people is a good thing to you then? read what I wrote.
     
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  10. websiteideas

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    #150
    If you have proof for evolution, you can win an award of $250,000. Perhaps you evolutionists should give that a try. Submit your evidence at Drdino.com
     
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  11. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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  12. debunked

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    #152
    Why do you make such statements? I haven't ever met a person who believes that.

    Anyways, do you know how fossils are formed? Do you have a clue to the timespan, pressures, etc... that it takes? It is really quite facinating how quickly a fossil can be formed.

    Do you get your information about Christian beliefs from a book or a professor or what? You have the most off the wall thoughts on Christians.
     
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  13. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #153
    When exactly do you (and the others) believe dinosaurs roamed the earth? And what happened to them? :)
     
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    #154
    I do not know the exact date of the universe. I am a little critical of those how claim they can figure it out from the Bible. My understanding is that those estimates used estimated life length. Thus, their methodologies appear to be able to generate no more than a rough guess.

    The same is true of science. 4.5 billion years is really just a wild guess. So is 14 billion. In reality, we the method used for this is only able to estimate within a year for things that happended very recently -- less than a few hundred years. there is no testing of the data beyond a few thousand years. Thus, 14 billion, 4.5 billion, etc are just wild guesses.

    A day is defined as the time it takes the earth to go around the sun (or the sun to go around the earth -- see the theory of relitivity, which clearly says that you can call it either one. Einstine, and modern science, clearly views that whether the earth goes around the sun or the sun goes around the earth is mearly a question of perspective). If Christians believe that the sun was not created on the first day, how long was it?

    Perhaps, the word 'day' is being used more loosely than some think?
     
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  15. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #155
    Umm.. no it's not. It's a well educated scientific answer, that is widely accepted amongst the smartest people on earth, and taught in schools. :cool:
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #156
    /\ Meet the Crackpots :rolleyes:

    /\ Smart, educated, reasonable people. :)
     
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    #157
    Again back to your daily dose of Jew and Christian hate from none other than a yo-yo. You had a hard time in school didn't you.

    Creation Scientist
     
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  18. yo-yo

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    #158
    debunked you didn't answer my question... when did the dinosaurs roam the earth?

    Why we're on the subject.. do you actually believe moses got 2 of every species of life on a boat and floated around earth why it rained? :D

    Let's see.. you're calling most of the world's smartest people (geologists, paleontologists, biologist, molecular biologists, dendrochronologists, genomics scientists, physical anthropologists, astronomers, physicists and archaeologist, amongst other scientists as ALL WRONG! What a laugh! :D
     
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  19. GeorgeB.

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    Lay off the Jesus juice... OK I'll play your game. Tell me exactly what you meant by this statement.
    I counted 3 mentions of the word theory in there so unless I can't spell theory, you WERE trying to bring theories into the equation. You were trying to say that everything I said is a theory when you sir believe "And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.".... You see it doesn't matter... all this argument about time lines and fossils and dates is irrelevant when your own book that you base your faith on clearly states that he created it all in 7 days. So what does it matter right? Unless you're trying to say that man was just spawned from dust by God with his mystical powers knowing language and everything at the same time dinosaurs and neandrathal man were created as well.

    Wait you didn't think I wasn't going to mention neanderthal man did you?
    I never said it was good, I said they were doing what they believe in just like you. So who is right? You or them? What's to say they aren't right? How about tribes in Africa that worship trees? Nope christians are the chosen ones. That's it, end of story. They are chosen ones because the God they made up says so.. :rolleyes:
     
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  20. yo-yo

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    wait i found it!!! man and dinosaur lived together, and moses put 2 of every dinosaur on the big magic boat with him! But for some reason they didn't make it (and for some reason the bible never mentions living with dino's) :D

    Man.. the crazyness of these beliefs just get more and more nutty the more i read!!! :D

    Who is that describing? ;)
     
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