What if George W. Bush was a DEMOCRAT? How high would his approval rating have been??

@corwin
you are going round and round because you do not have any argument. now yu want to change the subject. people do not approve of the job that georgy has done because he has failed badly. regardless of what you think of his political prespective, the fact that he has failed in everything that he has done or tried to do should be grounds for voting against him. it is your blind partisanship is the only thing that is stopping you from seeing.
this also is true for all the leaders of republican party. the republicans need to look for new leaders with positive and new ideas. looking to joe the plumber and palin for leadership is not the way to go.

 

Could you imagine the voting for obama and mccain if that was the case

 

up to nw obama is very sucessfull. he is doing everything that he said he is going to do. the people elected him to do these things.
which mccain?

 

Right now the Republican party is still in denial about what's going on. They think this is just another "cycle." I truly believe it is not. I think America is headed in a more progressive direction. 18 to 29 year olds voted for Obama 68% to 32% in the election.

The young people of today believe in civil liberties. And they also believe that rich people shouldn't be able ride roughshod over the rest of the country.

Until the GOP comes back with something entirely new (and I think that will take them a long time to do) they are headed nowhere but down.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Democratic party is up to 65 Senators in 2011 (after winning a net of 5 more in 2010.)

 

I know I elected him specifically to create a 2 trillion dollar deficit!

Right on brother! Its time to throw out the history books where these big swings happen in favor of one party or another and they come back, sometimes as soon as two years later. This time is different. The people have spoken and created this mandate. They asked for bigger government and by god we are going to give it to them. They complained about health care, and we will socialize it! Sure there are some cautioning about overreaching alienating the middle, but as you point out, the middle has moved left and we realize that! I don't think it is possible to overreach, and apparently, neither does the president! Sure there are a few things that have pissed me off, like voting to keep the illegal wire taps in place, and putting more troops into Afghanistan, but I think most have moved on from those foreign affairs issues. The economy is/was the number one issue on this election and our president's score card on that item in particular makes me swell with pride. Hell, I've got a chubby right now just thinking about it.

 

another rambling episode. the republicans have to stand up to the religious right and the ditto heads. they have isolated themselves all the way at the extreeeeme right. instead of comming to the middle where most of the country is they want everyone to move toward them. now for that to happened they have to have a great ideas or the democrats have to really f--up. i do not see it. they want top repeat these stupid words like anyone cares. socializing the medicine ooooooooooooh so scarrrrry. big government, hehe isn't them that wanted to have king george? and approve of spying on everyone. how about they want to take our guns. just some old slogans that is all they got. get real

 

Are you coming out of the conservative closet? First you tell us Joe the plumber is qualified to give plumbing advice. Then you hand legitimate and sage advice to the Republicans, telling them they can't just be the party of the religious. Next you point out that Obama is no different than Bush with his big spending, wire taps, etc. You make a subtle implication that the Democrats are really f--ing it up with a 2 trillion dollar deficit spent on social programs while still not entirely addressing the banking and mortgage problems! You wrap it all up with a collection of old right wing slogans about things like Democrats and gun control, which nobody disputes? Jesus man, shed your sheep's clothing and admit you worship Bush! Nobody is interested in that kind of stale thinking.

 

that is what a liberal is. we are not bound by no party but with our own set of beliefs. i do not agree with every thing that obama does. i think obama is not spending enough on education and he is giving to much attention to the pugs. i am not against religious. just those that want to define the religion for others and judge them by it. i belive religion belongs in your home and your church not in my life and in school or hospitals. not even in my supermarket. but the subject of this debate is not obama but bush andwhy the pugs support him regardless of his failure.

 

On topic then, are you saying bush was good in his big spending, or bad? I take it, when you say that you wish Obama was spending more, you are implying Bush was good with his spending which actually substantiates the subject of the thread that Bush would have been a popular Democrat. Again, how can you claim to be a legitimate liberal?

 

i do not dislike bush because how much money was spent in his presidency. i dislike him because of what it was spent on. i dislike him because he failed us in everything he tried to do. the fact that he spended so much and achived so little just goes to his and the rest of the pug's incompetence.

 

God knows it was a problem for the rest of us legitimate liberals. We ran campaign slogans around the idea that he turned Clinton's 300 Billion dollar surplus into a 500 Billion dollar deficit. Towards election day, the economy became the single biggest election factor overriding Bush's illegal war in Iraq.

There you go again. Bush spent 700 billion on stimulus, Obama spent 750 billion on stimulus. Bush spent 350 billion on bank bailouts, Obama spent 350 billion on bank and auto bailouts, with another 440 billion written into the 2009 budget for the same.Bush passed budgets laden with earmarks mostly for the Democrats, Obama passed budgets laden with earmarks mostly for the Democrats. Obama also just matched Bush's budget for troops in Afghanistan.

It seems that you are the one who keeps giving the pugs attention by drawing these distracting, though realistic comparisons between Obama and Bush, and frankly it is making my beloved, sexy Pres. O. look bad. Please stop.

Sure this more general bush hating comment gives credibility to your Liberal bonafides, but it is practically the only thing in your post that does, and I don't think anyone is buying it.

 

Absolutely.

To me Obama is a centrist. A pragmatist. This idea that he's some "far left liberal" is ridiculous to me. *I* am a far left liberal (and proud of it.) If I was President we'd have single payer health care already on the table and I'd be doing everything in my power to try and get civil liberties to be a priority (yes that includes legalization of drugs.)

I agree with you that Obama is giving way too much attention to the Republicans. I understand his political reasoning for what he's doing. But I think it's time to say "I tried bipartianship, these guys aren't willing to do anything, so FUCK THEM until they are willing to grow up." I think it's time to go the 51 vote route on everything important. No more compromising with the GOP and with the "conservadems." Let's get it done. This is the time.

 

@zibblu
i think they are talking themselves out f a few votes for the next election also
@onation
sometimes i feel like a nut and sometimes i don't.
obama is doing a lot of things that i do not agree with but he is doing whT he said he is going to do. failure or success will be measured later but this is not the subject of this topic.