Using Commission J. Link As URL In Adwords

Discussion in 'Commission Junction' started by rain6460, Apr 28, 2009.

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    Hi, I'm new to I.M. and Commission J.. I was going to try to drive traffic to a merchants offer (not my own site) using Adwords. The C.J. merchant links are long, and include all the html encoding for a website.

    But what if you don't have your own site, and just want to use their link for a destination url in Adwords...how do you know which part of the link to use in an Adwords ad? Is it only the text between the "quotes" ? There's is also sometimes two sets of "text" in the same link. Again, how do you know which part of the link to use in an Adword ad to ensure the prospect gets to the site, and that you get credit for the action? Thanks.

    Jeff
     
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    cldnails Well-Known Member

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    Most programs within the CJ network do not allow this type of traffic. You should make sure FIRST before you get banned from CJ. As a general rule, this is not accepted.

    Next, you will fail miserably at the Adwords quality score, so you will be paying an arm and a leg per click. Furthermore, Adwords may not even approve such an add, depending on a few factors. I would suggest save your adwords money and buy a freaking domain to either forward to (sometimes not allowed either) or build a landing page.
     
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    Look for the Keyword Link. That'll have a link as well as the terms of search marketing for the advertiser.
     
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    Buy a domain and forward it to your affiliate link, then promote it. adwords, seo, use you domain in your signature on forums.
     
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    Yeah those days are over. Buy a domain and build a website, blog or landing page like everyone else. You are going to need a little more time in the game before you start coming up with "new" stuff...right now your "New" ideas..are from the 90's.
     
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    Adword hard to do direct linking u will get low QS and cost u alot money and if adword find out u are duplicate url ur ad will not show ., If u want direct linking try yahoo or msn.
     
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  7. rain6460

    rain6460 Peon

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    Hello Again,
    Thanks to all who responded to my inquiry, even those who felt it necessary to inject their sarcasm as well!

    So I think it only fair I respond, since I'm still a bit confused due to mixed messages I've been getting. To cldnails and hmansfield ...I do own a domain, several in fact.

    And concerning my "New" ideas from the 90's...? Well for the record, they're obviously not my ideas. And I've recently (2009) heard some of the most respected names in I.M. talking about direct linking strategies. And I'd be willing to bet these marketers would say, that the "Nay-Sayers" out there, are folks that tried it, got their butts kicked 'cause they aren't good enough with Adwords, and now just poo-poo the idea all together.

    Now having said my peace, I still want to thank everyone for their input. You've all convinced me that, as a beginner, this is a road I probably shouldn't venture down. And maybe without the sarcasm, I might have gone ahead anyway, and got my own butt kicked :eek: So thanks again everyone!

    Jeff
     
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    rain6460 don't worry about sarcasm we all do it. Really good points out there what you should do is first take a look at your competition google keywords that you have and see how many ads you are competing with. It is really good to buy a domain and redirect as said above. You can make it or break it with adwords, you just really need to watch your ads, take off ads that are getting clicks but you have NO sales, make display ads is key And Even if the adwords keyword section says bid is below estimated 1st page bid of $1.5 million dollars never bid more than .19. I know my niches well and I never bid more than .06 and I generate tons of clicks/sales so just play around with it. People here who are mean just don't want you to succeed in adwords because most likely they have failed. Keep it like that and you don't need to respond to them it just feeds the fire.
     
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    Dude, you'll have to excuse the sarcasm, no harm was meant.

    From what I have seen, many major programs have been frowning on this type of direct linking and some even do not pay affiliates who practice it anymore..Amazon being the latest.

    So when I say that it is antiquated, that's not to say that it doesn't still work, but, as affiliates come around it would be hard for me to base my entire plan on something that seems to be going the way of the dinosaur.

    I haven't used Adwords in a while, but from what I remember, you can't use anchor text anymore, it has to be the actual domain so that would shoot the entire principle out of the window of just plopping in your affiliate link.

    This was a practice that was preached a while ago..."Make money without owning a website" was a popular type of e-book that all of the "guru's" used to preach, but lately, I haven't seen any recent talk about it, just years old stuff from back in the day when everyone was doing it.

    I just don't see how you can do it without owning a domain and redirecting.

    I could be wrong, but based on the letters I get from my affiliate programs...they don't like it.
     
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    Hi , I found a way to do direct linking at adword , first u can buy a domain name at godaddy and then u log in ur godaddy account there got one function which can forward ur domain to ur affiliate URL and you also can type some keyword .this way u no need to pay hosting fee.

    One more thing search at google for "godday coupon" u can get coupon code to get $7.50 .com domain ;)
     
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    its still the same, if a noob or such does not have the cash upfront to buy a domain then redirect it. some advertisers allow display urls, so in google when making your ad in the destination url you place your aff link and in the display url you use the merchants website. But you really need to make sure this is ok w/the merchant otherwise you can lose money (more money than adwords) you risk your leads/sales being reversed which can make you wanna cry.
     
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    Thanks jodyq for your advice on Adwords a couple of posts ago. Can you clarify what you meant when you said "make display ads is key"? I'm not sure what a display as is...are you referring to a typical 4 line ad that you create in Adwords, or something else?

    Also, are the tracking tools offered within Adwords sufficient for thorough tracking of ads, or are there better third party programs that are necessary? Thanks again for all the input!

    Jeff
     
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    Hi Rain6460 sure display ads are banner ads. It is free. how to get there and create them is easy
    log in to google adwords. Click campaigns, click the campaign you want to make on for
    go to ad variations. click "display ad builder (new)" select the design put in your words and poof you have display ads (banners). Again its free. which show up more frequently (for me) than the text.
     
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    What do you all think about the tracking tools Adwords provides? Do most of you use third party software to track clicks and conversions? Thanks.
     
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    adwords tracking is off, analytics I mean, I just use the tracking system that my host provided.
     
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    Hi,
    Could you possibly paste a link to a page where you have one of these running so I can have a look? I'm trying to visualize where or when these ads appear...or are you talking about banners for Adsense sites? Thanks.
     
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    Hi , can i know this type ad is it for content network only ? thanks.
     
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