“Death to the enemies of Islam!” the counterdemonstrators cried, encircling the women

What are you thinking bro? Relax a while and start from the beginning...

Do you believe, that men and women should have equal rights?

In my opinion, Islam is a Libertarian religion, which empowers women and gives them equal rights.

Sharia law was created by men. Sharia means "Path". New additions were made to it centuries later as rulers of Arabia struggled for power. Shias had their own laws & Hadith, which were different from the Sunnis. How can you except it?

So, please friend, think before you write...

 

lol i love to say this when people defend their customs and think they defend their religion.
your belief is so weak. you compare quran to some science book. you think because a writer can not explain to you what he means then god can not do it either. you will understand what god wants you to understand. that is much better than you understand what theacher wants you to understand. people write book to benefit themselves and express their own opinion. why do people write sales articles? buy it now before the price goes up. read my book if you want to succeed in seo. buy my book if you want to rank in google.follow me if you want to go to heaven heard all that in seo forums and in a lot of mosques and shouls and churches. deposit your money here.click to donate. click to buy. why is your imam so fat?

then why do you need sharia

 

I am afraid I will have to differ on this one

There must be a reason why Allah ordered us in Quran that inheritance of males is twice that of females

Quran also makes the testimony of man equal to the testimony of two women

if they were made equal then why Allah would have given them less share and half testimony and these were just two examples

men and women are not equal hence their rights also differ, comparing men to women if like comparing apples and oranges, they are made of different roles , there can't be a fair comparison between them

 

I don't know what to say

 

It is hard to reconcile those passages with justice, compassion, or equal rights.

Those passages are not compatible with the modern civilized world.

 

What is civilized and what isn't is quite debatable

 

obviously some of you do not know how to read.
post the passage so i can read it for you. complete and unadulterated.
also do you have anything to response to my last post. but if you ignore what god and mohamad said why would you care what i say
your leaders are just reading what they want to read to justify their ideas. they do not care what quran or mohammad said. they want their position so mthey get rich and fat. how fat is your imam

 

Not really, but keep telling yourself that if it makes it easier for you to live in that manner. But the rest of the world already knows:

There is nothing civilized about putting someone to death for leaving any religion.
There is nothing civilized about not letting a woman leave her home without permission from a man.
There is nothing civilized about killing gays.
There is nothing civilized about treating a woman's testimony as 1/2 that of a man's.
There is nothing civilized about killing adulterers.

 

You may have other ideas of how this is taking place, but just wondering, have you ever heard of Irshad Manji? Irshad is an outspoken critical Muslim feminist, so outspoken she has received death threats.

 

exactly what you want to say ? you are mixing things up

 

Well now you are just arguing for the sake of argument and nothin else..

Of course to justify something i have to give you some example..

you can start arguing bout that the religion is by God And people should not talk bout it as its God Authority and we dont have right to debate or compare it with other things
all your points were useless as you didnt answered why you need a teacher?
If you think you acn make a statue of God and put it in some corner of your room and thats it.?
do u think religion is just about goin to church or mosque or temple and thats it?
Religion is all about your life..everyday life

and i have to give you examples fromt his world...science book or social studies book..
What do u expect me to give u that you can think is equal to holy book? Ofcourse there is nothin than can be use an alternative for it.
i used the term book for example . I didnt COMPARE it with holy book ..Sir..
lets say..
I command you to eat and dont tell you how to eat.what do you think you gonna do??wait for me to transfer the manual on how to eat in your mind via some telepathy or science machine ?? of course you need to learn how toeat rsefl..but how gonna you learn it? with help of somebody else...EXCEPT GOD..as He sure wont come to teach you how to eat..unless you are in some bollywood film

And if you read from the start..i am not defending any IMAM, priest or pope...

i am defending the religions here..

 

There is nothing civilized to put your parents in old homes

There is nothing civilized to USE the women as an entertainment in western countries...and i dont know why women feels o proud of it

There is nothing civilized to think someone is less important that you...racism...These are far more bigger issues in non-islamic countries..or may be some MUSLIM did it and then run away

and There is nothing civilized on arguing over MUSLIMS WOMEN RIGHT'S..when the non-muslim countries are killing muslims all over the world

We are not civilized bro.. we are not..

WE stand up on a death of animals in world..but we remain silent on killing o thousand of small children in muslim countries like Philistine

WE are civilized enough to debate on TERRORISM but we are not civilized enough to protest again the MASS KILLING happening in IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN..

WE ARE CIVILIZED ENOUGH TO IMPOSE BAN ON SAYING ANYTHING BOUT HOLOCAUST..
BUT WE ARE NOT CIVILIZED ENOUGH TO SAY A SINGLE WORD AGAINST WHAT NON MUSLIM COUNTRIES DOIN IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES..

salute to all you GREAT AND GENIUS GUYS...

I am out of this debate as people are now taking, even examples wrong...
And once you have decided not to listen any point valid or invalid..no power on this earth gonna make you change your mind

Thanks And Bye to all of you Great Debaters

 

No, I have not heard about her. The blog is... I wouldn't call it interesting... but is thought-provoking.

In my opinion, her activities could inflame and anger many people. These are people buried under old customs and traditions. It will take time to slowly open their minds. It is not something that could be done overnight.

We all know what happened in Afghanistan. Taliban was defeated. But the new rulers continue to undermine women's rights. They may claim religion as their reasons for conservatism. But its actually a cultural problem.

Maybe, in a couple of generations, their minds can slowly be opened towards a more progressive way of thinking. Internet is going to be a boon. Free flow of information and mixing of cultures can help a great deal.

But the truth is, from what I know and what I have seen, people will not change. They will not give up their power, nor will they consider women as equals. Thats how it works in the whole world, except a few progressive European countries

As Muslims pray to the same God the Jews and Christians pray to, so some of their laws are the same. The story of Sodom And Gomorrah as given in the Old Testament (Leviticus) is also mentioned in the Quran, in Chapter 11. The narrative is almost similar.

Since homosexuality is banned in Jewish and Christian laws, likewise it is banned in Islamic laws.

 

I was interested if you've heard of the reformist translation of the Quran, if not, it's on the Irshad manji blog, you can read it for free.

 

Such modesty!!

LOL , look at her get-up and the pictures and what she is doing .... translation of Holy Quran

would have been more suitable if she was offering latest britney gossip with this get-up and layout

 

my point is that the punishment is not the responsibility of mankind. if god wanted them hanged he would have said so. maybe god will judge them and send them to hell. but who is mr x that decides he should be hanged?
just because something is prohibited it does not give anyone else to judge and punish the "guilty" person.

 

you still have not explained why your reading of what mohammad said is so misleading and why you change its meaning to a point that is no longer recognized. and why your imams want to start implemantation of islamic rules from killing people and punishing people. why don't they start from the positive things that are in quran?

 

for seoz if you see this.
just because the world do not care about the people that die it does not give others the right to kill.
the easiest person t change is yourself.
also if you compare god and quran to other writers and books you limit his powers and its efffect to the lvel of man kind and as the result will miss the meaning and the truth in wha is said.
i am starting to feel like richard caradin in kungfu

@rebecca.
people in afganestan live like they are in the middle ages after all they have been bombed back to the middle ages by the two superpowers for 30 of the past 50 years or maybe more. you can start helping them to live in this century and when they do then start criticizing them
saudis and iranians and the rest is a different story

 

God doesn't do anything. He has never done anything... He's not interested anymore...

I am a libertarian and I don't really care if anyone is gay or whatever. As long as the person is not hurting someone else, he should be free to do whatever he wants. It is not my concern.

But conservative people do not think that way. In any religion, be it Islam, Christianity, Judaism or Hinduism, it is not tolerated.