When was this world created?

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  1. LemuriaHost

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    #121
    Simple, I don't believe in that the things have an start and an end..

    is an universal law...nothing can be created or destructed...everything is transformed

    and with the life, you can't create life if you don't have life...there was a lot of experiments trying to explain this and they failed.
     
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    #122
    Didn't Darwin repent and ask for forgiveness on his deathbed?
     
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    #123
    You must read this:

    The answer to how we got here determines the answers to the other questions: Why are we here? Where are we going? Do our lives have meaning?

    BY ITS very nature, evolution proceeds willy-nilly, without purpose or goals. If we arrived through evolution, we are here for no reason, we are going nowhere, and our lives are meaningless.

    Fortunately for us, evolution is not true. It never got started, much less reached down to us. The scientific evidence is unanimous: A living cell packed with thousands of purposeful functions could not originate by undirected, accidental changes. When reason prevails over evolutionists’ desires, this is obvious. As Francis Crick said: “An honest man, armed with all the knowledge available to us now, could only state that in some sense, the origin of life appears at the moment to be almost a miracle.” And as Professor H. S. Lipson, Fellow of the Royal Society, reluctantly said: “We must go further than this and admit that the only acceptable explanation is creation.”

    Such honesty by evolutionists, however, is rarely expressed. The usual approach is dogmatism, such as: ‘Evolution is a fact. It no longer needs to be proved. No competent scientist doubts it. All educated people believe it. Only the ignorant reject it.’ On a NOVA telecast, Stephen Jay Gould said that science “often reflects the largely unconscious biases of those who do the work.” Two minutes later he demonstrated his own bias when he said that Darwin did more than any other human to “establish the fact of evolution.”

    Darwin believed that life was “originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one.” His belief in evolution by inherited gradual changes is collapsing. The fossil record he relied on for proof has failed him. Gould himself has abandoned all these positions of Darwin because they are not founded on fact. To rescue the theory, Gould has switched from slow changes to big fast jumps to get from one form of life to another. There is no basis for this. It is an arbitrary maneuver to eliminate the need for the intermediate fossils that are lacking in the fossil record. Not only is evolution unproved by science, it is disproved by science.

    So it is as a last resort that evolutionary writings are peppered with intimidating propaganda. By such tactics evolutionists herd millions of brainwashed converts into their revivalist tent. Lacking factual support, they resort to the same tyranny of authority used by desperate Pharisees against Jesus:

    “The Temple police who had been sent to arrest him returned to the chief priests and Pharisees. ‘Why didn’t you bring him in?’ they demanded. ‘He says such wonderful things!’ they mumbled. ‘We’ve never heard anything like it.’ ‘So you also have been led astray?’ the Pharisees mocked. ‘Is there a single one of us Jewish rulers or Pharisees who believes he is the Messiah?’” When one of their own number protested, they derided him: “Are you a wretched Galilean too?” (John 7:45-52, The Living Bible) Similarly, evolutionists today brand as incompetent any scientists that reject evolution and heap vitriolic ridicule upon them if they dare to espouse creation!

    Creation is far more scientific than is evolution. It accounts for the purposeful design we see in heaven and on earth, in plants and animals, in our own bodies and in our amazing brain. The information content we see in DNA certainly testifies to an awesome intelligence at work. Einstein never liked the God of Christendom’s religions, but he was profoundly impressed by “the harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.”

    Creation also opens the way to answer the ultimate questions.

    Why Are We Here?

    Jehovah told why when he created the first pair of human creatures. “Let us make man in our image,” God said to the Logos (who later came to earth as Jesus), “according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every moving animal that is moving upon the earth.” God also made a garden in Eden and “proceeded to take the man and settle him in the garden of Eden to cultivate it and to take care of it.” Moreover, he gave a mandate to the first pair in Eden to “be fruitful and become many and fill the earth.”—Genesis 1:26, 28; 2:8, 15.

    As offspring of Adam and Eve, we are here to populate the earth, to care for and cultivate it, and to exercise a loving stewardship over its plants and animals. We are equipped by God to do this by being made in his likeness—not in any physical appearance but in being endowed with certain attributes of his, such as love, wisdom, power, justice, and a desire to do purposeful work and feel achievement. It is being in the likeness of God in this way that sets us apart from all animals and causes us to ponder the ultimate questions that never occur to any other earthly creatures.

    Atheists, however, contend that we are not created in God’s image but that we created God in our image. Not so. The gods created by men are in the image and likeness of sun, moon, stars, trees, thunders, lightnings, mountains, animals, rulers, money, sex, belly, plus whatever else man is pleased to deify. (Romans 1:25; Philippians 3:19) Man’s image does not reflect God’s attributes in balance. Rather, in our fallen state we are urged to return to his image. (Colossians 3:9, 10) Evolution does not explain the tremendous gulf between man and animal, nor would it produce or preserve as useful our inner urge to raise the ultimate questions. Being in God’s image and likeness does explain this.

    Where Are We Going?

    No animal raises this question. Animals have no conscious sense of time, past or future. But man does. God made this additional gulf between man and animal, as stated in Ecclesiastes 3:11: “He has also set eternity in the hearts of men.” (New International Version) Man is therefore aware of the millenniums past and knows that future time will continue on. It concerns him. What will happen to him when he dies? Does he have an immortal soul that will live on? Will he go to heaven’s bliss or to hell’s torment or to the grave’s oblivion? Or will he perhaps transmigrate to another life?

    He certainly does not wish to face the thought of his extinction. It is devastating for him to think that time will continue on endlessly without him, the earth and people continuing on without him, while he is consigned to eternal oblivion. To avoid this unacceptable thought, he clings to the idea of an immortal soul—a doctrine taught nowhere in the Bible.—Ezekiel 18:4.

    The Bible does say that when man dies he returns to the dust. “In that day his thoughts do perish.” He is “conscious of nothing at all.” (Psalm 146:4; Ecclesiastes 9:5) But there is to be a resurrection for billions: “The hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out.” Those who then love God and neighbor will hear the words of the King Jesus Christ: “Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world.”—John 5:28, 29; Matthew 25:34.

    From the beginning it was Jehovah’s purpose for the human family to dwell on earth forever in a paradise. Now the time draws near for obedient mankind to inherit that Kingdom. It is described in Revelation 21:3, 4: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore.”

    That is where obedient mankind is going. But the incorrigibly wicked will be going to sleep forever. “Just a little while longer,” the psalmist writes, “and the wicked one will be no more; and you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be. But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth, and they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.”—Psalm 37:10, 11; Romans 6:23.

    Do Our Lives Have Meaning?

    There are billions of galaxies in the universe and billions of stars in each galaxy. In the vastness of space our solar system is reduced to a speck, and the earth becomes microscopic. The five billion humans on earth shrivel to less than nothing. But it is not simply our smallness in space that makes us feel insignificant. Our fleeting existence in the eons of time also makes us feel that our lives lack meaning. Nevertheless, our minds demand meaning. We were created to feel this way.

    We may seem less than microscopic in this vast universe, and we may be as a fleeting moment in the endless stream of time, but our position on earth is unique, and our lives are involved in the most meaningful issue in the whole universe. Not only were we put here by Jehovah God the Creator of the universe but we were given work to do: Fill the earth, take care of it, exercise loving dominion over its plants and animals. And even more meaningful than this—we may share in declaring Jehovah’s Kingdom under Christ that will cleanse the earth of wickedness, vindicate God’s name and Word, and remove demonic rule from the earth.

    Lives lived like this have meaning. They will last forever. God’s people are as the pupil of his eye. (Deuteronomy 32:10) They are at rest, for the ultimate questions deep within them have been answered.

     
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    #124
    Can you be sure we are here at all. Or have I seen the matrix one too many times?
    My gf's cat seems to think this question from time to time. She'll wait outside an ajar door with that look "shall I come in to the room or not", or maybe the look is more like "how did I get here?"
    Only that which we decide to give it.:)
     
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    #125
    I read somewhere:

    Repent to God, yes. I'm sure like all of us would, when the time comes.

    Retract his writings, no.

    From what I read, Darwin never tried to prove the Origin of Life(outside of God), just speciesization of life, so is the idea of speciesization evil? Or sinful?

    Then what about use who belive in such things as "age of accountiblity?"

    tom
     
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    #126
    Would anyone care to speculate on when this world might end?
     
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    #128
    As soon as I die.
     
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    #129
    IT WILL NEVER END!

    Cause when you think it is over, someone will revive the world with some post. :( World-Bumping.


    :p
     
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    #130
    1st post.

    Accidental, yes. Undirected, no. This is a strawman.

    I don’t really care what he said. Creation is an unacceptable explanation itself.

    Of course, creationists never provide a definition of what should be considered an intermediate, so their attacks on the fossil record are completely bogus.

    This is irony to the extreme.

    Creation is a big, fat, huge appeal to ignorance, among other things.

    It does? How?

    Yep, and the Jewish people chose to deify tyranny, plain and simple.

    There is no tremendous gulf between humans and animals that evolution cannot readily explain. The second claim (that evolution would not produce our inner urge to raise the ultimate questions) has no evidence provided.

    Except that this is an outright lie.

    Sorry, no dice. Relying on appeal to ignorance and other fallacy does not a strong position make.
     
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    #131
    You registered here to just help dig up this thread?

    Oh my, this is going to be fun.


    :D
     
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    #132
    Dinosaurs.
     
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    #133
    Nah, not JUST for this...

    actually, I didn't look at this thread until after I registered.
     
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    #135
    Wow, that video was an eye opener. Anyone who believes in evolution should do themselves and society a favor and enlighten themselves by watching it.
     
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    #136
    if you believe that video i've got some 'rare' and expensive sand to sell you :rolleyes:
     
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    #137
    Dr. Hovind is a direct result of evolution. His neck has fused together.
     
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    #138
    What I think about this whole thing...

    "Don't consume tomorrow, by spending time today, dwelling in the past."

    Now this isn't advice I offer you, since you all are my competition, and I want you to ponder greatly about creation. In fact, forget web-mastering, and go into theology, and biology, or any 'ology' that makes my EPC, and eCPM increase.

    So if a God-less evolution is fact, why do giraffes have few neck bones than a sparrow?

    :p
     
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    #139
    Dinosaurs.
     
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    #140
    Why do you think that evolution would create a giraffe with a greater number of neck bones (or a sparrow with less)? I need to know where you're coming from.

    Edit: directed to TommyD
     
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