Keyword Research - Guide

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by Danielle Faith, Apr 20, 2009.

  1. #1
    Hey Guys,

    I was reading around Digital Point and couldn't help but notice that a lot of people here skip the most important factor when create a new niche site and that is Keyword Research!

    Most people just jump right in and try to rank for "SEO" or "Credit Card Debit" or "Internet Marketing" and they forget or don't even know that they wont see results for years if they are trying those types of keywords. I must say I am guilty of it. I was hellbent on getting my Student Loans Site to the first page of Google that after a year and a few months I was ranking on page 20 of Google at my high point I was on Page 8. But when for no apparent reason my site dropped to page 30 I just about had enough of it and sold my student loans site.

    Now that I have some money behind me I've started a Collectors Car Insurance website and I'm not going to take a year to get to page #1 of Google. You know why? Because, I did keyword research. I picked 4 main keywords that are going to be categories on my blog with a remaining 11 sub-keywords that are going to be my "long-tails" I picked these keywords based off of their search volume and the amount of results in Google. For Instance one of my keywords is:


    Classic Car Auto Insurance

    854,000 Results
    280 Monthly Searches
    $10.66 Adwords Bid


    Its an achievable goal....I guess thats my point here.............. MAKE YOUR GOALS ACHIEVABLE!

    Trust me you don't need an eBook to learn how to do this stuff. Just do your research!


    http://www.google.com/sktool/#keywords?​


    Anyway, maybe I'll make another post on how exactly to conduct keyword research.......but after a long time of studying it I feel it is the most important factor to building up your base.
     
    Danielle Faith, Apr 20, 2009 IP
  2. brainstormingin

    brainstormingin Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the post. Looking forward to your keyword research post.
     
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  3. 3drendering

    3drendering Peon

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    Thanks for the Post..
     
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  4. chimpychompy

    chimpychompy Peon

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    #4
    I would like to find out what sort of figures you (and others) recommend for 'do-able' keyphrases.

    I appreciate different niches call for different approaches but is there a figure for number of searches VS number of competing pages that you would go for?
     
    chimpychompy, Apr 21, 2009 IP
  5. Vadym

    Vadym Peon

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    Lol.

    First of all, "Classic Car Auto Insurance" has 22K competing pages. THAT's what makes it an easy keyword to dominate. Learn about exact phrasing. You're doing keyword research completely wrong right now.

    Also, some more keywords for you that are easy to kill.

    car insurance classic car
    searches monthly: 720
    competing pages:44,000

    classic car insurance online
    390
    48,600

    classic car insurance companies
    210
    3,050

    classic car insurance company
    260
    10,100

    classic car insurance quote
    1,300
    34,600


    Sign up for the course in my signature. Learn to market properly. Especially before you start teaching others.
     
    Vadym, Apr 21, 2009 IP
  6. coreygeer

    coreygeer Notable Member

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    845,000 Results?

    Easily doable. Just copy an Ezines article and re-post it to GoArticles and make sure to put at least 6 affiliate links in the article. That article alone should earn you $35,000 each month residual if you do it right.

    Just imagine if you did that with 100 articles? WOW! INSTANT MILLIONAIRE!
     
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  7. OnlineBizzer

    OnlineBizzer Peon

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    More affiliate links? Yay!
     
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  8. edgray

    edgray Peon

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    This can be a popular misconception - whilst it seems logical that the fewer competitors, the easier it is to get the top, this isn't always the case. If you're dealing with a very specific niche then the number of results is irrelevent - there could be only 50 pages but if they're well optimised then it could be a real challenge to get to the top.

    My advice is to choose long tail keyword phrases and slowly narrow them down. In my previous job at an architects studio I targeted originally the term 'international architects' amongst others. Only 800,000 results for that, but the first few pages were litered with sites with a PR of 5 and much older than ours. Once we ranked on the first page for that, I moved to just 'architects'. A highly competitive term but we certainly made our way up the rankings despite there being some 42,000,000 results...
     
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    So can you submit an article written for you to another website for them to distribute with all the same links?
     
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  10. Vadym

    Vadym Peon

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    I do believe he was mocking the OP. But good try.
     
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  11. Danielle Faith

    Danielle Faith Active Member

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    LOL! I see my advice or "advice" as some people would call it, is mockable here.......

    MY point is do something that is manageable for you, some of the keywords that Vadym listed are my keywords as well...I call 'em "sub-keywords" they go under a big umbrella of a tougher keyword, I'm sorry my post wasn't clear.

    I picked a DOABLE Umbrella Keyword "Classic Car Auto Insurance" and then I have a bunch of long tails underneath that. The goal is to rank for the long tails and then the big Umbrella one.

    DP is so cynical everyone assumes that each other doesn't know what they are talking about because of language barriers or stupidity. I was just making a point for people to do research and was posting a helpful link!
     
    Danielle Faith, Apr 21, 2009 IP
  12. Rjet

    Rjet Greenhorn

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    Thanks for posting. I am learning about keyword creating.
     
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  13. Vadym

    Vadym Peon

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    Well, actually.. the broad form of that, as I researched, is just auto insurance. Everything else is a 'sub-keyword'. And for a 22K result keyword.. that's hardly an 'umbrella'.

    But it's not about that. I'm telling you that you're doing the keyword research incorrectly. It's for your own benefit, I'm not here to belittle you. I'm trying to tell you how to do it properly. If you're not here to learn, then you shouldn't be here.

    If I was here to mock you, I'd just laugh instead of doing kw research for you, no?

    Oh, and, that keyword tool is site-based. Most people would rather use:

    https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal

    Since it doesn't limit a person to their website.

    And I highly doubt that I have any sort of language barrier.
     
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  14. Danielle Faith

    Danielle Faith Active Member

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    Hey! I'm always up for learning about this stuff otherwise I wouldn't be working at it so hard! If you want I can PM you a detailed list of my 15 keywords I want to rank for and perhaps you have some suggestions, if not, that is okay I'll just ask you how else do you suggest I 'discover' keywords besides the google tool?
     
    Danielle Faith, Apr 21, 2009 IP
  15. Vadym

    Vadym Peon

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    You can PM if you wish, I can help out.

    As far as free keyword research methods, Seobook.com does well. The external keyword tool does well.

    The problem isn't your keyword research itself, that's fine. It's that you simply had a mistaken conception about exact phrasing and broad phrasing, that's all.
     
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    Well even if the example wasn't perfect, the message of going after something achievable instead of something impossible is good advice.
     
    bogtab, Apr 21, 2009 IP