This is what you said ! This clearly shows us in what state your mind is You are clearly stating that because you don't agree with someones opinion that that person should not be allowed to share his view. Since you say this you, if you had the power to do so! would shut that persons mouth ...... as I understand ... Correct me if I am wrong but you obviously showed us what is going on in that little head of yours.
Look at what happened after the cartoon(in my avatar) came out. WTF was that all about? Or maybe that was just a joke. They didnt really kill, rape, burn, and destroy property based on a cartoon, or did they? lol. And youre going to sit there and tell me the religion is a good religion? The people are good people? Save your breath, I'm not hearing you.
Eveyone has their turn in America. Mexicans, blacks, muslim, christian, whites...we all have our time being denounced. It just so happens a lot of people are pissed off about 9/11. Otherwise most Americans or otherwise wouldn't really have much to think about when they think Muslim. I'd say your origin country (I think?) was quite lucky in not having oil and because it's leaders have prodominately been western friendly. That's why I said Jordan is such. It's a better example of muslims. Too damn bad the rest of them get the screen time, but in America you should know that the worst of people get on tv. Sadly people aren't interested in the better examples. It would be nice to see an organization of Muslims speak out against all atrocities equally...jewish, muslim, russian, NK, US...whatever is honest and true. Organziations without bias. jmo
Something really ought to be done about user 'ly2'. In nine years of reading online forums, I have yet to come across a more reprehensible or offensive human being. He is just the kind of person who would have pushed Jews into the gas chambers sixty years ago; then it was in vogue to express anti-Semitic views, now users like 'ly2' are following the latest trend in claiming all one billion Muslims around the world to have identical views and wishing to slaughter them all. It is sad to see users like 'ly2' being given free reign to spread hatred and offend many users of DP. Read his previous posts and his sole mission seems to be splew vitriol against Muslims.
Yeah, 1000 out of a billion, I don't have my calculator, but that is 0.0001% of Muslims, right? Damn all those Muslim terrorists.
Oh this is nothing ... check out irandefence.net It is obvious that muslims are very happy when something bad happenes to jews or western world and america. Just look at them cheering at the time !!! Maybe this got some people thinking they must be mad over there in muslim countries. I don't see people in Los Angeles or Pariz or Berlin or whatever city in western world you pick cheering for Israel on the streets at this moment! Now that is the difference you see....or is it that people just don't have time because they actually work and don't have time to burn flags and stuff unlike crazy muslim world....crazy it is indeed ...
Adam.biz: In case you missed my post to you, care to comment? http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=1119745&postcount=193 Oh, and your references to "Zionists" who "slaughtered" blah... blah... blah... certainly does not make you sound racist
Your post serves an excellent point, though I'm sure it was not intended. In fact, just a week ago, the "religion of train bombs and head choppers" blew up a train in India killing many. But you've never come across a more reprehensible or offensive human being? Right! Says a lot about what you find acceptable and not. I've not seen ly2 say anything negative towards Jews. But I have seen plenty from yo-yo. If you were truly concerned about the "sons of pigs and apes," you would call yo-yo out, the one who makes no excuses for hating Jews. Is the pot black, or is it the kettle? Is there any secret of the absolute pure hatred muslims have for Jews? Do not take them for friends? Slay them were they lay? Sons of pigs and apes? I find it offensive when people choose to defend their religion from the atrocities they commit, rather than condemn them and admit there is a problem. Of course, there are no "civilians" in islam, so condemning the killing of innocent civilians has no meaning.
After over 50 years of fighting Palestinians were granted their own land in Gaza. This was the most extraordinary opportunity to better the lives of people living in Gaza. Shortly afterwards some extremists tunneled between Gaza and Israel attacked an Israeli army group, killed several soldiers and kidnapped one. Israel responded. They could have started raining bombs on everyone and anyone. They slowly escalated pressure...all without mass killings. Subsequent to that Hezbollah in the North sent rockets into Israel, killed several soldiers and kidnapped two more soldiers. Maybe Israel should open its borders and say something like this...."Why kill only a few of us. Have a go at all of us." Israel deserves to defend itself. In only a few days Hezbollah has sent a couple of hundred missiles into Israel. Hezbollah is a minority party in Lebanon. Hamas is a significant party in Gaza. These two parties have hijacked the rest of their populations into a war. They want war...they got it. I hope they are crushed.
This kind of stereotyping of one billion people will not help us develop any peace in the world. Muslims do not hate Jews. I am a practicising Muslim and my best friend is an orthodox Jew. Instead of digesting sensationalist news stories, I encourage people to actually ask Muslims whether they hate Jews or not. For hundreds of years Jews lived in harmony with Muslims. Indeed, Jews fled to Muslim countries when they were persecuted by Christians in Europe and enjoyed peaceful and affluent lives. Read about the Jews in Andalusian Spain: "Side by side with the new [Muslim] rulers lived the Christians and Jews in peace. The latter rich with commerce and industry were content to let the memory of their oppression by the priest-ridden Goths sleep, now that the prime authors of it had disappeared. Learned in all the arts and sciences, cultured and tolerant, they were treated by the Moors with marked respect, and multiplied exceedingly all over Spain; and, like the Christian Spaniards under Moorish rule - who were called Mozarabes - had cause to thank their now masters for an era of prosperity such as they had never known before."The reason why many Muslims feel upset is because of the persecution people - Muslims and non-Muslims - are subjected to repeatedly by Western forces and their satellite states and the biased reporting of issues. There is a world of difference between despising Zionists and Jews. I do not like Zionists, just like I do not like all aggressors, but that does not mean to say I do not like Jews. I have more Jewish friends than Muslim ones. The way we will develop some sort of peace in the world is if we stop stereotyping people and try to understand them. I spend hours every week talking to Jews; how many Muslims do you sit down with and try to understand? How often do you switch off neocon television stations which are owned or staffed by a significant number of Zionists and try to get another perspective on the geopolitical situation in the Middle-East? In response to the poster who asks about suicide bombings, no I do not agree with the killing of innocent civilians. [No doubt we will now be subjected to some infantile response to continue with the "all Muslims are scum" and conflictual theme of this thread.]
You know, I didnt always feel like this. Five years ago, if you had asked me "what is your opinion on Muslims?" I would have said, "I have nothing against them, why do you ask?" But now? Bombing after bombing, beheading after beheading, hate speech after hate speech, I now have an opinion. Let me tell you something, I may be the only one saying what I'm saying here on DP, but guess what, ALOT, infact MOST non-Muslims are thinking the way I'm thinking. I am just choosing to voice my opinion. If you walk up to the average American and ask "What do you think about the Muslim religion?" You would be hard pressed to find a positive reply. Are there good Muslims? ABSOLUTLY. However, the ratio of truly good Muslims to evil Muslims is a much closer ratio than say, Christians vs evil Christians. That's the problem. On top of that, when these bombing happen, the Muslim world either cheers it on or does not stand up and denounce it. That is what is creating the perception of Muslims being evil. If a group of Christians decided to behead people, the media, the public, and our government would be all over it, denouncing it and speaking out against it. This is the difference. And again, I dont hate a RACE of people. I hate a religion, there is a big difference. I will not hate a black man for being black. However, I will hate a Muslim for choosing a religion that is a sworn enemy of me and my country. Fucking clean up your "religion of peace", or deal with the worlds perception of it. Dont blame me for voicing my thoughts.
Just like all you Yanks condemned the Christian IRA for blowing up dozens of civilians and terrorising the British population for decades? Most of the IRA funding came from the United States.
How many of you guys actually know Muslims, or even see them during your daily routine? Do you guys ever see Muslims? Where you live? or just ones on TV?
I'm pretty young and I dont know much about that. I'm speaking of things that have happened in recent times (since I started paying attention to world affairs)
That, and the rest was about what I expected. The typical response. We call Jews sons of pigs and apes, but we don't hate them. Our holy book says to not befriend them (which means if taqiyya was not being practiced, you are not a faithful muslim), our holy book calls for their death, our religious leaders call for wiping them off the face of the earth, but no, we don't hate them Good grief! No wonder peace isn't possible. People are ashamed to admit they have a problem in the first place.
Good point. I was friends with a ton of Muslims in middle school and high school(all from egypt). I will say my friends were good kids, nice and everything. I will also say their parents were horrible people and hated non-muslims. Some of their parents would call the white kids that came over "white devils" and expressed a true hatred for us. And thats the honest truth. The religion teaches hate. I have long since moved away fromt here, there is a good chance that the same people I was friends with would now call me a white devil as well, since being brainwashed by the muslim religion and their parents. Just like the Muslim schools have hate speech in their text books. Calling all non-muslims pigs and such. The Muslim relgion is a religion of hate and violence, you can beat around the bush all you want, the facts are there for you and all to see...
No worry on it ly2, it's only a red herring for moral equivalence. Next will come something about a handful of abortion clinics bombed in the 90s, and the always classic, Timothy McVeigh. McVeigh is a fun one, because of the ties to islam.