Obama Approval Rating Falling!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Corwin, Feb 24, 2009.

  1. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #241
    So your personal financial gain is more important than your country?

    Isn't that kind of strange coming from someone who touts socialism?
     
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  2. Zibblu

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    #242
    You confuse what I believe in with communism. Certainly I (and President Obama) believe there's a place for the stock market and entrepreneurs in America.

    I've brought this up before. Misrepresenting my views (and the views of Obama) as being something other than what they are doesn't advance the debate at all.
     
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  3. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #243
    Exactly right. Entrepreneurs and stock brokers have their place so long as a healthy portion of their windfall profits go to help the needy.
     
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  4. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #244
    USA economy, what do you mean? Is there a problem with the economy?

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    Oh well, I haven't heard about that. But did you hear Bo (Obama's new dog) just signed a book deal to write about his life with the President? I can't wait until it comes out!
    LOL:)
     
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  6. Zibblu

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    #246
    No. His approval rating is currently at 63%.

    The idea that Texas is considering "seceding from the union" is preposterous and only goes to show how ridiculous the GOP is becoming. They are quickly becoming a fringe party. It's a little scary the way they are behaving, but mostly just hilarious.
     
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  7. ksb2050

    ksb2050 Well-Known Member

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    #247
    Did you not read the article? :confused: The people saying this we're not republican.......

    And besides who cares about the GOP when the democrats are destroying us with the economy. I think the GOP has a lot of room to be ridiculous. :rolleyes:

    And 63% is awful low....but thanks for referencing your statistic to a site so left winged that I almost spit up the soda I just drank :rolleyes:
     
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  8. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #248
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    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

    Monday, April 13, 2009

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 34% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President.

    Thirty-two percent (32%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of +2. That matches his lowest total to date (see trends).

    I see its up to a whopping 36% today: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ministration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

    Enjoy reality!
     
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  9. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #249
    Can you say sour grapes? How about misery loves company. Obama's overall approval is still above 50% and even if it were to drop down to the Bush levels (Mid 30s) due to some smear campaign by the right, it would ignore that the Democrats won, and the Republicans lost, period. For at least the next two years and maybe the next 8 years, you can cry all you like, but Mr. O, Mrs. Pelosi, and Mr. Reed will do whatever they feel they need to to change America into a better place, and there isn't a thing you can do about it.:p. I just love the fact we finally have an administration that isnt afraid to say exactly that through official channels.
     
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  10. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #250
    The reality is, it is lower now than when Bush was in office over the same period.

    Truth hurts. What's really sad is how many people continue to try to blindly support their decision even after they know in their hearts it was the wrong one. Actually its pathetic.
     
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    ksb2050 Well-Known Member

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    #251
    Better place? ROFL

    Obama is leading this country into socialism. He fired a corporation CEO the other week, an act no president has ever done, nor have tried because they do not have that sort of power. Obama has spent more money trying to fix the economey than we could've imagined making the economey worse than ever (and he's still going!). His cabinet is corrupt, half of them are on the wrong side of the IRS. The country is going to hell and all Obama can do is parade arouund Europe and "apologize" for America and tell the middle east that we are "not a christian nation". Obama has sucked up to Europe so much, and recieved nothing. Instead of protecting America and the free world we made threats against North Korea when action was clearly needed, now look what happening. Iraq and Afganistan are completely unchanged since Bush, in fact the only difference now is that CNN doesn't whine about it every day. Obama is in articuulate and a horrible public speaker, has no experience, and is a over night celebrity.

    And thats ony from recent events!

    Obama's rating must be low, and if they're not they will be. His actions thus far have pitted at the same levels as the bush administration or worse, his appoval rating is sure to follow down his downward spiral. So far, he's destroying America from the inside out. So better place huh? You must be living on the moon.....

    We can only hope for the 4 years to fly by or for him to get impeached. :(

    (dammit, I got into a big rant, which is exactly what I didnt want to do :/)
     
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  12. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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  13. Zibblu

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    #253
    63% is awful low? It's more than twice what Bush's approval rating was for the last 3 or 4 years. WTF? Try reality on for size.

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    And you Republicans can keep referencing the GOP Rasmussen poll all you want, but the Gallup poll is the standard and it has been since the 30s. When people talk about Presidential approval ratings from the past that's what they are referring to. You must compare apples to apples. The Rasmussen poll is something else entirely.

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    The fact is that President Obama remains overwhelmingly popular with average Americans and the Republican party is becoming defined more and more so as the party of no ideas, or even worse the party of the lunatic fringe that *still* thinks George W Bush was a good President.

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    Classic right winger thinking. They "must be" low because you and your right wing buddies have a low estimation of him. Guess what - you guys don't represent the average American, not now anyway, not in 2009. America gave you guys a chance for 8 long years. It's time for something different.

    And yes, this is EXACTLY the "change" we voted for. That really cracks me up when I hear people that voted for McCain asking "is this the change you wanted?" ... YES!
     
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  14. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #254
    Actually Bush's approval rating at this stage of the game, pre 9/11 was at that level, or a bit higher...

    How soon we forget. That or some of us here were not old enough to remember that far back. ;)
     
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    ksb2050 Well-Known Member

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    #255
    Hating Bush was a trend. It was like smoking, it was cool so do it. There were tons of closet Bush supporters that wouldn't say anything due to the fact they'd probably get killed.......
    And bush had a high approval rating during some of his years. Granted most of the time it was low.

    63 % is not low, but it's getting there. He started high, now he's entering the mid level. I wouldn't be surprised if he's around Bush level by June to be honest. ;)

    Thanks but that's my line ;)
    Trying to show Obama-obsessed people that he's destroying us. America has to wake up sometime, we can't stay in this "obama is great" dreamland forever! We need to look at what he's really doing!
     
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  16. Zibblu

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    #256
    You do make one decent point, new Presidents do usually have a sort of "honeymoon" period where their approval ratings are high and I think it's likely that at some point Obama's approval ratings will dip somewhat, it's happened to almost all Presidents.

    But the point remains - We've gone from having a President with a sub 30% approval rating to one above 60% - to say 63% is "awful low" is insanity.

    Also check this out: :After Sept. 11, 2001, approval of Bush's job performance jumped from 51 percent on Sept. 10, 2001, to 86 percent on Sept. 15, 2001, in a Gallup Poll."

    We'll see how Obama is doing on Sept 10 but I bet it's better than 51%.

    Ludicrous. 63% is not "mid level" and he has shown *no* signs of dropping. Over the last two months his approval ratings have remained steady (in the low 60s.) In fact he has dipped to 59% on a couple of occasions only to rebound back to the 63% area.

    There is just no evidence at all to support your claims. Facts. Those are what you need if you want to remain competitive in an argument.

    As far as what you would be surprised by or not, that has no bearing on anything. I'd be willing to be $100,000 that Obama's approval rating will be above Bush levels (30%) in June. Would you be willing to bet against me?

    And your claim that "hating Bush was a trend" - well yes. It was (and it is) but that's because he was a remarkably awful President. Unlike those that hate Obama who do so for very childish reasons.
     
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  17. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #257
    Funny, hating Bush was cool. Disagreeing with Obama is racist.

    Funny how things work that way. :rolleyes:

    Ah, he's already there: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ministration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

    If you don't say Obama is Great, then you are a racist. Or so I've been told.:eek:
     
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    #258
    That goes both ways. It used to be that disagreeing with the President meant you were "Anti American" ... oh yes "Love It Or Leave It." You guys should take your own advice.

    I'll play your game for a second and pretend that the Rasmussen approval poll is significant. Here's a copy/paste from that link: "Overall, 55% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President's performance so far." Sorry bud, 55% approval is not Bush level. Compare apples to apples and compare Rasmussens to Rasmussens: These are Bush's Rasmussen numbers: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...political_updates/president_bush_job_approval

    Bush was in the 30s since April of 2007 even on this poll which definitely leans to the right.

    Here's another apples to apples comparison: Gallup vs. Gallup (the definitive Presidential approval poll) --- Bush in April of 2008 (one year ago) was at 28% approval. Today Obama is at 62% (yes he did lose one point from yesterday! Oh no!)

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/106426/Bush-Job-Approval-28-Lowest-Administration.aspx

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    Right now the GOP is in great danger because they are betting the farm on Obama's failure and if he is successful and the economy does turn around - he will get all of the credit. It's just like with the pirate crisis - The GOP/Fox News bet on Obama failing and when he did a great job, they had to give him the credit.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #260
    You know what's really funny? The more I think about it the more it's dawns on me: The real "kool aid drinkers" are the Ron Paul supporters. And I say that with some embarrassment because I did support Ron Paul (because of a couple of issues, I never agreed with his insane economic ideas.)

    You question everything the big mean Government does, but you never question these alternative ideas, not really. You need to question everything not just those in power but also the loonies on the ledge.
     
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