Google is degrading Pagerank?

Discussion in 'Google' started by Mong, Jul 14, 2006.

  1. #1
    Recently my site www.nichewatch.com got ban from Google for still unknown reasons.
    And no body has been able to find the reason :eek:

    But it has got PR 5 though it is not higher rank but still not bad.

    Previously we have seen that google alot PR0 to banned websites.
    If now Google has started giving pagerank to banned websites.
    Then what does it mean?

    There is no need to think about page rank value anymore ? :rolleyes:
     
    Mong, Jul 14, 2006 IP
  2. Lordo

    Lordo Well-Known Member

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    #2
    I got a site banned yesterday for an unknown reason as well. PR0 => PR6!
     
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    #3
    Googles PR hasn't been important for a long time, it's just people are only starting to realise it now.

    For what it's worth Mong, I don't believe your site is banned, just de-indexed for a technical reason. I firmly believe when they sort out their problems you site will be fully indexed.
     
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  4. Mong

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    btw MattUK i have not received yet any email reply from google. :eek:
     
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    MattUK Notable Member

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    #5
    Sometimes it takes a long time. If you got PR in this update I'd say you're almost certainly not banned, just an indexing issue.
     
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  6. Mong

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    #6
    Hopefully :)


    But it is possible that when Google took snap for PR my site wasn't ban.And it could be banned after that PR snap. :eek:
     
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  7. MattUK

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    Usually a banned site shows 0PR irrespective of when the update is, you can get banned at any time and your PR will show as much.
     
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    #8
    I have many new sites that have jumped from PR0 to PR3 or PR4.

    I agree, but it is still important if you sell links. TR is much more important than PR, but no one can see a TR bar. So people buy when they see a PR.

    Also, many directories sort their links by highest PR. So after a PR update, I can get more backlinks indexed when my PR rise.
     
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    stimpsy Well-Known Member

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    I have a wine related website that was banned for unknown reasons for the past 6-8 months, and now it has a PR 2, but there is still no pages available with the site: command..

    weird..
     
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    #10
    I think if you do a search on Google for "googe sitemap" you can log-on and create a sitemap for your website. If you do that, I think Google will let you know if your site is banned and why. That is what I hear, I'm not banned, so I don't have 1st hand experience
     
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  11. Mong

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    Google says it will alert "few" webmasters not "all".
    I have sitemap account and there is no warning. :)
     
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    #12
    That's true. Also a higher PR tends to mean you get spidered more often.

    Take a look here though, I think people will start judging links like this rather than PR on it's own.
    http://www.seomoz.org/tools/page-strength.php
     
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    #13
    Google is going through a weird "data refresh" right now. All of my sites took a hit. Some late 90s sites got into sandbox. Some randomly disappeared completely off the index (Nowhere to be found). Not even "www.site.com". But they still do have a Pagerank. I think Matt Cutts said that the next phase of data refresh should be done in about a week. I hope everything gets back to normal. Cutts is not willing to admit their screwup.
     
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  14. Lordo

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    #14
    I strongly hope that this is the issue :)
     
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    :eek: my PR of 5 is now 3 - where's the crying emoticon?
     
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    yes me too, I got degraded :(
     
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    #17
    Spider frequency is mainly determined by the freshness of your content not PR - that usually goes hand in hand though.
     
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    #18
    IMO , PR is more important
    freshness is secondary

    guess, that there are other factors too
     
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    #19
    The pages of my primary site maintained or in the cases of new pages gained PR, however, some of my minor sites lost PR. In at least one case the PR went from 5 to 3.

    I suspect we see two things going on. First the billions of pages created by the sub-domain spammers probably really diluted PR on everyone's websites. We might also be seeing an adjustment to the PR algorithms that calculate PR. Really the PR of pages really seemed to bunch up very quickly at PR5 & PR6. Maybe now the calculations will spread PR out such that the lower PRs will actually mean something. In other words, maybe PR3 is becoming the new PR4, PR4 is becoming the new PR5, etc. What this means is that people will have to adjust the way we look at each PR value if measuring PR is important to us.
     
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    #20
    I don't think you got your site banned, but not sure.. I think PR use the algo that people link to your website.

    Another thing I wonder is you are not index in google at all.

    Have you try google sitemap,, if your site got banned, you can see the notice in google sitemap.
     
    tonyinabox, Jul 14, 2006 IP