How long until new links effect ranking?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by leswoody, Apr 13, 2009.

  1. #1
    Hi,

    Lets say your website is targeting a competitive keyword and already has many links and is sitting in 13th pos. Then your site attracts 5/6 related PR3, P4 links from websites that already rank top page.

    They link back to you with the correct anchor text, how long before you can expect a movement in SERPS.

    One of our sites has attracted some great links in the last 10 days, but still no movment.

    Is there a delay in link juice?
     
    leswoody, Apr 13, 2009 IP
  2. vansterdam

    vansterdam Notable Member

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    Part of it depends on how often that page gets spidered. A frequently updated website typically gets spidered more frequently.

    Sometimes links don't have much immediate effect, but become more beneficial with age. Google assumes that if the link has been up for a long time, it is more important.

    When you get new links, they might be affecting your rankings on other Google data centers first. So you might just have to be patient while the other data centers pick up those links too.
     
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  3. internetmarketingiq

    internetmarketingiq Well-Known Member

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    Google updated it's algorithmic 450 times last year. I rebuilt an old html site onto wordpress last week. It took me about 3 days to do it. During that time I got crawled and my ranking bottomed out on that site. Typically that site was crawled about once per week. So it was just timing.

    So the real answer to your question is that Google will see those links within a day or two, but how they choose to apply this new information is up to them. I would expect changes with high quality links like what you are mentioning to happen in days not weeks, but I can not speak for MSN Live (Or whatever they are calling it today) or yahoo to occur as fast. But who really knows. If your site is new or is not currently crawled frequently it could take longer.

    Speculation is really pointless. Get the links and move on to the next project.
     
    internetmarketingiq, Apr 13, 2009 IP
  4. teenwolf41

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    I don't think there's a set time. It's about when the site gets crawled by the search engines. Google is very random and sometimes link show up the same day and others could take a week. If the anchor text is correct and the corresponding site has a good PR/Alexa ranking it will be benefiting you.
     
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    Canonical Well-Known Member

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    Well said vansterdam... you said it perfectly. A lot depends on crawl frequency of the site where the link is placed as to when you get any benefit. And some links do not give you the full effect immediately... they will sometimes phase in the benefit.
     
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    jose Well-Known Member

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    Just two comments in addition to the perfect answer of vansterdam :

    - 5 or 6 links may be not enough to improve significantly your ranking.

    - be sure you got backlinks from actual PR3/4 pages.
     
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    merlinseo Well-Known Member

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    Google wont update PR frequently , it occurs every 3 months
     
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    I'm not talking about page rank. But my point is, the website in question has lost two spaces from 13th - 15th as of to day, this is after gaining 5 real PR3/4 backlinks from websites in the same niche and ranking on goolges first page. The links have been all crawled , so google know's they exist.
     
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    There's always going to be variables at play. I don't think you should read so much into your the site sliding 2 places, because it could've happened for a variety of reasons. Just keep plugging away and your efforts will eventually pay off.
     
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    Google updates your 'real' PR constantly.

    They only update the toolbar PR once every 3-4 months typically. The toolbar PR is a snapshot of the 'real' PR at some point in the past (i.e. it's worthless and ALWAYS out of date). They map your 'real' PR to a 1-10 scale for the toolbar PR using some logrithmic scaling and then publish it as a toolbar PR update about once a quarter. By the time the PR update is rolled out its already weeks old.

    What really counts is your current or 'real' PR which is constantly being updated. It is your 'real' PR that is used by the ranking algorithm, NOT the toolbar PR.
     
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    It would be interesting to know the role of real PR in the results of the serps....would it be really significant if it is vastly different than the tool bar PR?

    Regards,

    RightMan
     
    RightMan, Apr 14, 2009 IP