Fact or Myth: Creating a new account improves sales/tracking?

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by everybody_chill, Apr 12, 2009.

  1. #1
    I have a very old clickbank ID. I have always been suspicious of the tracking.

    I did have one sale recently, but I've heard several people mention that creating a new clickbank account helped to solve their problem.

    can anyone here verify this?
     
    everybody_chill, Apr 12, 2009 IP
  2. SirKhan

    SirKhan Member

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    #2
    i think its a myth
     
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  3. Marlexca

    Marlexca Peon

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    I've tested it, and its a myth.
     
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  4. ScoTech

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    Its a myth, but you only hear from the few people that it coincidentally worked for, and not the hundreds that it didn't work for. I do believe your account can get temporarily barred for 2 to 6 hours, if they think u are sending illegal sales. Most peoples problems are crappy traffic, "I sent 500 highly targeted hops" doesn't mean crap coming from a newbie. If your still reading, and don't hate me, ill tell you about my system that has prevented me from having a 0 day for months.
     
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  5. Ripped

    Ripped Well-Known Member

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    I haven't tried it, but I know this from a certain affiliate for some of my products, that managed to get 10+ sales consisently each day, on some days, he even got more than 20 sales per day.
    The very same affiliate, who is an experienced PPCer is very convinced that this is in fact is not a myth, and he constantly switches between 3-4 clickbank accounts.

    There is evidence to prove that CB has some fraud aviodance system, thus, when it gets a certain pattern of sales from one affiliate, it does something to block some future sales, thus switching to a new account might prevent this. Again this is just a theory, I don't support neither side.
     
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    I just don't buy into this.... On top of it showing pathetic business skills on clickbank's part, what do you do with your old accounts? You either have a lot of small accounts that it takes forever to be payed out on, or you have to wait for the accounts to pay out so you can delete them...
     
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  7. Patchkaa

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    Its a load of bullshit I reckon!! Its a myth!!
     
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  8. terryd

    terryd Well-Known Member

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    #8
    I'm not too sure about it myself.

    Perhaps we should go to the discovery website and ask the mythbusters to put this one to rest......:D

    http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/mythbusters/mythbusters.html :D
     
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  9. rikat

    rikat Well-Known Member

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    #9

    I'm afraid you're missing the point of the exercise. This has nothing to do with throwing away accounts. It has to do with shuffling them.

    As the theory goes, any given affiliate account can suffer a fraud block at anytime due to factors which remain unsubstantiated.

    This block can last up to 48 hours (usually much less) and substantially cut down the number of successful transactions allowed during that time... Now this phenomenon (pattern) is more obviously seen by those that have a regular and somewhat predictable volume of daily sales.

    The act of switching links to another account is simply to stem the negative effects of declined transactions.


    Simply put:

    If you had the choice of letting 50-75% of your sales get declined for a short period of time, earning you $0 for those declined sales

    OR

    switching your links out to another account and continuing business as usual

    Which Would You Do?


    FACT:

    Whether this is truth or bullsh1t remains unproven. But for those with multiple CB accounts earning good figures, the myth is too dangerous to ignore, and easy enough to indulge without financial ramifications due to threshold issues.
     
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  10. bl4ckmaN^

    bl4ckmaN^ Well-Known Member

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    It's BS. New accounts don't make any difference to how your sales fluctuate.

    When you suddenly go from $100/day (or whatever amount) for the whole month to a zero for a week, that's CB having BIG "problems", but not your account.
     
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  11. wiper

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    I think it is a myth. i am currently trying it with one of my old accounts. The account i switched for a new one was getting over $1000 14 days ago (7 day -20 sales). $0 last week (7 day 0-sales). So, i have switched all hops to the new account yesterday.

    Yesterday sales: $0

    I will give you an update within one week or less.
     
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  12. venrooy

    venrooy Active Member

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    #12
    I've tried it a few times, some times it does not appear to work. But other times the numbers jump so greatly, that you wonder if it really could be a coincidence.

    I may be setting up a script later this week to give it a real test. I have a website in the reversephone niche that receives high numbers. I'm going to set up a php script that will switch out 4 or 5 of my affiliate nicknames. I'll set up the script to split test them all evenly. After a couple of weeks of doing this I should have a big enough number of clicks to be able to spot a trend.
     
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  13. everybody_chill

    everybody_chill Banned

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    I am looking forward to hear your results. Make sure you come back, and don't get banned! lol
     
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    #14
    i do think "fraud detection" can cause problems, especially if you're a full on ppc-er ...

    but, i think the "instant sales by switching account" is largely a myth, unless you have been tripped by fraud detection and have large volumes of buying traffic ...

    ... i did try it, made no real different to me ... however, spending time getting more hops did make a big difference :)
     
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  15. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #15
    I think only CB themselves can tell us this. Otherwise is just us guys guessing against what we want to hear/coincidences/general drops in sales/product fluctuations/economy/holidays/better competitor products.
     
    mikey1090, Apr 13, 2009 IP